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Kyle, I'm hi-jacking your thread. Sorry. I disagree. Baited hooks are just that...baited hooks. Fish will be hooked deeper when using bait. Every fisherman who's ever fly fished and bait fished knows it. Barbless hook rules are good conservation practices. Fish that are hooked with barbs are out of the water longer because of the extra time required to get the hook out and are usually bleeding a hell of a lot more than when you use a barbed hook. I normally go barbless everywhere I fish. I've never used scented bait up here and as far as I'm concerned they are a waste of money. When I use bait I use worms or shrimp and a few other tricks.Any data you can pull from In-Fisherman magazine I would be highly suspect of simply becuase they are telling their readers what they want to hear. Studies done by well known fisheries biologists and published in scientific journals would be much mnore reliable.It's a personal choice and its about respecting the fish you're catching.KRIS
I have to disagree. I bait fish all the time on rivers with a single barbed hook. I utilize a an active drifting/jigging presentation with my bait. At worst, one in twelve trout are deeply hooked. Most are hooked right in the upper jaw or mouth. It only takes a couple seconds to unhook them and I leave them in the water while doing it. It is not that you fish bait, but HOW you fish it that influences mortality. If your not utilizing an active presentation fishing bait in a river, your not catching that many fish anyway. And the problem is most all plastics are scented and scented lure bans by default ban plastics from most fly and lure only waters.The only people you ever hear and only fish you ever hear mentioned in bait mortality studies is trout and other salmonids. It's just because most fly fishermen fish for trout and salmon. So they just take advantage of the fact that bait has a higher mortality in some situaions so they can ban bait on their streams because of their elitist, snobbish attitude. With that I mean only the fly fishermen who look down their noses at others, not most fly fishermen.Fly fishing often has the highest mortality because many fly flickers use very light leader or tippet and they play the fish for so long that the fish builds up lactic acid from fatigue and will actually die of metabolic acidosis.
I disagree completely with this nonsense about barbless hooks.....the proof is in the pudding so to speak.....stick a barbed hook in your hand....heck even stick a big Gamatsu in your mouth.....and try and pull that out without causing some damage.....flyfishers are just as responsible and conservationist as anyone else when it comes to CPR.....labelling flyfisherpeople as elitist, snobbish is narrow-minded?.....get a life.....for those that can still legally angle with barbed hooks.....so be it.....for those that have to abide by barbless regulations....more power to you......it takes more expertise to work and land a fish barbless....true conservationists for the fisheries....Grump
.....for those that can still legally angle with barbed hooks.....so be it.....for those that have to abide by barbless regulations....more power to you......it takes more expertise to work and land a fish barbless....true conservationists for the fisheries....Grump
I can show you TONS of studies that show NO FREAKING DIFFERENCE. Barbless hook regs just look good on paper and are also tough to enforce too.
Whatever grouch. Study after study, and that's HUNDREDS show barbless hooks and barbed hooks have no statistically significant difference in mortality. Do a google search and see how much you get. Human flesh is different than fish flesh anyway, it's A LOT harder to pull a hook out of a human than it is a fish.I also did NOT label all fly fishermen that, and even clearly stated that in my post. You need to get a life. I can show you TONS of studies that show NO FREAKING DIFFERENCE. Barbless hook regs just look good on paper and are also tough to enforce too.
6) Camo - There are likely a few hundred thousand lakes up here that are restricted to bait ban, single hooks, barbless hooks or any combination of those things. They are definitely well enforced because I have the cell phone numbers of the fish cops right behind my licence. They will take more than your lure as well. They might confiscate your entire tackle box and rods Obey the rules KRIS
Fine for no licence: $175Fine for treble hook: $135Fine for a barb: $115Fine for bait: $115Plus confiscation.....not a profitable way to fish
it takes some skill to bring in a fish on barbless, which is funner to me. any slack and that fish is gone.
*EDIT*it takes some skill to bring in a fish on barbs, which is funner to me. any slack and that fish is gone.should read barbless instead of barbsOOPS.
I fish a reservoir that has a "no bait" rule as well. In fact, I helped get the law changed to include "no scents, or attractants". The first time that I punched a hole in the ice, I figured that I would be wasting my time, and would only be washing lures for the day. I found that the trout there LOVED small crappie jigs. 1/32 of an ounce marabou jigs, the ones with chenile bodies. They didn't seem to like plain marabou jigs at all. Try a few different colors. White, black, and ginger are my favorites.Fishrmn