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I have a mix of Octopus and Gami circles. Like em both and really don't lose that many fish. Nemachuk....that post above was not a knock on you at all, give them a try.....I just don't see the reason to use trebles, that's all. Now, if I was fishing the Winneppesauki Derby (or however you spell it) and they allowed me to use trebles I WOULD. I would hate to lose a big Salmon during a tourney when the $$ was on the line!!! Plus, that's good eats!!!