My First Permantent Shack 4'x7'

[Walleye64]

5/8" green treated plywood, 2x8 runnners with 2x4's ripped down to 2x3" for cross members. (everything green treated)

Walls are 1.5"x2.5" ripped from 2x6"s, the shack is 6'3" tall on the inside

I got two brand new 12"x30" windows for free from a friend and I will be making 2 more plexiglass windows that are 12"x8"            (Sorry picture wont up load)

I also got a free older shack that had tin on it so I took it off the tin and put it on the one I am making now. here are a couple pic's with the tin on the new shack. the old shack that had the tin on it was crap and weigh a ton because it was steel.



I used 1" Pink 4x8' sheets of insulation $10 bucks a pop. used 4. Next I ripped 3/8" plywood half inch wide to hold the insulation in, the half inch strips go all the way around in each opening to make it look nice. I wont be putting any paneling on the inside.

I doubled up on thickness for the insulation on the door because I had extra left over (sorry picture wont upload)

I figured I could get 3 holes in the shack along with the wood burner. It will be a 2 man jigging shack. 4'x7' is the perfect size for 2 guys sitting on pails jigging.


I ripped 2x6s for the ceiling 1" on one end and 5.5" on the other. I don't have the roof on yet. but it will be on of steel paneling. not a ton of weight but more than a rubber roof. the steel roof will out last a rubber roof though.

I posted a wanted ad on Craigslist for a small wood burner, and ended up with this for free!!!! some guy just had it laying around and gave it to me. it's only 7" wide 14" tall and 12" deep, but thats all I need for a 4x7' shack. it's around 10 lbs with thin steel walls. it's around $125 new


I made some hole covers out of scrap insulation and 1'x1' 5/8 plywood




should I put steel or plastic on the bottom of the runners?

More to come........

[Walleye64]

let me know if I should add anything

[mr.clean]

Looks good Walleye64 just a few ideas though I have never built a permanent shanty. Install some type of heat shield on the wall(s) by the stove also get a battery powered carbon monoxide detector. You may want to insulate the roof to cut down on heat loss and possibly a fan to circulate the heated air. No sense in heating the ceiling. I see you have cross members running the width of the shanty maybe  run one or two down the length to stiffen up the floor.
 You know how we all love photos so please keep us update as your build progresses.
 Steve

[bababooey]

you might want to sheet the bottom of the sled also, even if it was just with a thin piece of dairy board.. I would think that the cross members would catch slow and cause more drag than you might want.  It will also drag the snow with it, therefore filling up the underside of the shack.  It might not be an issue, just a thought

[Zorros shack]

Nice shanty looks roomy!

[Walleye64]

yup I'll have a heat shield for the wood burner and the roof will be insulated too.

the weight of the shack is around 400 lbs

I could of went with lighter materials like 2x2" walls but I have no sheathing like OSB or plywood to make it stable enough. the floor plywood was $29.00 for 1/2" or $32 for 5/8" so I got the 5/8" because it was only $3 more. If I was going to build a 8'x8' shack I would of got the 1/2" though. every stud and piece of plywood was pre-drilled and screwed with triple coated 3" deck screws.


tonight I will make a small table for the wood burner and mount a door spring on the door so it will shut when I run and get a tip-up.

I'll post a picture before the weekend of the stuff I'm making.

[tippin2back]

great job!!....and cheap!!!....as far as steel on the runners, not a good idea...will melt into the ice, .....i use downhill ski's i get from my local dump, and attach them to the bottom of the runners (recess the screws).with no snow on the lake last season , i could push  my 4x8 (with a 16" bump-out) with a fart.... ...with snow on the ice, it was effortless to pull with a "picked-out" sled

[Walleye64]

I built the table for the wood burner, insulated the roof, and spray foamed the roof.

[Walleye64]

[Walleye64]

[TIBS]

Where's the spear hole?

[Mainedog]

Very nice looking shack!

Line the skis with UHMW plastic so it will pull easier.  Hope it isn't too heavy.

That wood stove will drive you out of there!  You could get by with
just a Mr Buddy.

Make sure it's vented good so you don't die.

Please post pictures of it this season in action.

MD

[Walleye64]

When I see 4'x8' sheets of wood panelling on sale I think I will panell the inside. All I need is 4 sheets to cover the whole inside, maybe 5.

This fall I will be building a portable shack, I'll post that project on here too.

[mr.clean]

The shanty looks good Walleye be sure to post some pictures of it in use this upcoming season.
  Steve

[Xpressman]

I am going to make the same size shack this fall. Thanks for all the details and photos! Let the shack building begin.

[Big Fortin]

Nice shack 

[Xpressman]

great job!!....and cheap!!!....as far as steel on the runners, not a good idea...will melt into the ice, .....i use downhill ski's i get from my local dump, and attach them to the bottom of the runners (recess the screws).with no snow on the lake last season , i could push  my 4x8 (with a 16" bump-out) with a fart.... ...with snow on the ice, it was effortless to pull with a "picked-out" sled

Any pics of your ski set up on your 4X8?

Thanks,
Dave

[tippin2back]

sure do dave........i use 2 sets, put them back to back...
this picture was taken when my bob-house blew down the lake in 50- plus m.p.h winds ..
even when it was tied down on each corner.....
luckily it gives you a good view of the skis....lol

[Xpressman]

sure do dave........i use 2 sets, put them back to back...
this picture was taken when my bob-house blew down the lake in 50- plus m.p.h winds ..
even when it was tied down on each corner.....
luckily it gives you a good view of the skis....lol
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Awesome!  That is exactly what I needed.


Thanks,

Dave

[Tainterslayer]

For your runners, consider going to the hardware store and buying some aluminum roll flashing. It's in the roofing section. Put it on the bottom of your runners (fold it up the sides and nail it)
My last shack was pretty heavy (couldn't lift one side of it) but i could push it by hand.

OH and before you do anything else, angle the other end of your runners. You may think you only need the front to be angled, but I guarantee that you will have to push it backwards.

[Xpressman]

For your runners, consider going to the hardware store and buying some aluminum roll flashing. It's in the roofing section. Put it on the bottom of your runners (fold it up the sides and nail it)
My last shack was pretty heavy (couldn't lift one side of it) but i could push it by hand.

OH and before you do anything else, angle the other end of your runners. You may think you only need the front to be angled, but I guarantee that you will have to push it backwards.

Thanks for the runner advice! That I know I can find also. I've been unable to find a couple sets of skis.

[DasRottweiler]

I enjoy cruising the summer yard sales for buys. Last summer I hit one with all kinds of skis for sale- Talked up the guy(nice guy) and he agreed to give then all to me if they didn`t sell. I bought a Coleman suitcase stove and a few other items for fishing from him and left. He called me the next day and told me to come grab the skis. Yard sales are great for ice-gear and DIY ice guys!

[P Meyette]

nice job on the shanty

[duck doctor]

For your runners, consider going to the hardware store and buying some aluminum roll flashing. It's in the roofing section. Put it on the bottom of your runners (fold it up the sides and nail it)

Becareful towing it across anything other than snow/ice. I saw a guy that did this and ripped all the flashing off before he even got out of the parking lot.

It does work great if you can launch on the ice!

[jasond37]

Very nice looking shack!  It's a great feeling when you finally get it to the lake for the first time.  Drilling those inaugural holes and dropping the line, worth every bit of work you did!

[rockhound57]

I agree about the flashing, it won't last long enough to be worth the work,  If you can even find a plastic 30 or 55 gal barrel, cut it with a skilsaw slightly spiralled you can get enough length for the runners without splicing. A friend here even used water skis on a portable, they would have worked great, except he didn't build them up.
    Another observation from experience, the closer the stove is to the floor, the more comfortable you'll be; without a fan, all the heat is above the middle of the stove- cold feet and knees.
   Too bad shipping is not cost effective; up here in Ski Country, we can pick up all kinds of free skis. Know anyone who skis or lives near a ski slope? Mn. or Wisc.?
   Or if you want the best thing going, try these folks, or search "UMHW Polyethylene "
                 http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=23217&clickid=redirect

   Thicker is better, to a point (3/8 - 1/2") I'd predrill and use LONG SS screws, just barely countersunk so they won't catch or directly freeze in                   TIGHT LINES!!   

[Walleye64]

This weekend I paneled the inside of the shack. its really starting to look good. I'll post some pictures mid next week. All I have left is build a bench seat and hook up the wood burner.

Has anybody ever use charcoal as a heat source instead of wood inside of there wood burner.

how long will charcoal burn?

[Melbs7]

I know that having a wood burner in a perm shanty is the cool thing to do... but I would strongly consider just using a buddy heater or big buddy heater instead. your shack is relatively small and there is no good way to control a wood stove in that small of an area. Once the wood is in there and burning.... it will put out so many BTUs per log. Also, when you're getting ready to leave at the end of the day... how long do you want to plan ahead for not putting any more wood in the stove so the fire is out before you leave? I don't know how many times I've looked at my watch and realized that I should have already left the lake........ Just my thoughts....

[tippin2back]

I know that having a wood burner in a perm shanty is the cool thing to do... but I would strongly consider just using a buddy heater or big buddy heater instead. your shack is relatively small and there is no good way to control a wood stove in that small of an area. Once the wood is in there and burning.... it will put out so many BTUs per log. Also, when you're getting ready to leave at the end of the day... how long do you want to plan ahead for not putting any more wood in the stove so the fire is out before you leave? I don't know how many times I've looked at my watch and realized that I should have already left the lake........ Just my thoughts....

i agree.... my shanty is only a 4x8...by 8' high, and i use the small buddy heater on a 20lb. tank......i have to turn it off if the temps are in the 20's outside
if i had a wood stove there would be no way to shut it off...

[gaudetskie]

I have a 5x10 perm. With a sunflower heater and I can't turn it down cool enough to not roast me!!! If you put some sort of vent in the high corners that might help? Not trying to be a know-it-all, just my 2 cents.