%$@(#@ Global Warming.

[pokerman]

Ok, blast away at me.   I have never seen weather patterns like we have had for the last several years.  What happened to the days on Sodus and Keuka drilling through 2+ feet of ice? 

It's time for this world to wake up and make some real changes.  We have to find alternatives to oil and fossil fuels, or there ain't gonna be any ice fishing for anyone in states like NY.  I can't wait to get the monkeys in this White House out of there- put in anyone else.  McCain, Obama, Clinton, anyone is better.  Put your bible down, pick up a god-damn science textbook, and let's start protecting our planet for generations to come.

I am that crazy?  Bleeding heart liberal?  Call me what you will- but think about it when you are thinkin' of those beautiful mornings on the ice and big jacks you won't be chasing this weekend.

Pokerman.

[goinhungry]

figures - this is the year I purchased a power auger 

I know enough to know that I don't know enough, but I do know that those emissions have to go somewhere, and they aren't natural, so they have to have some type of effect. I think both sides are right about some things and wrong about others, but there certainly seems to be something happening and it needs a global effort.

Oh well, I do have a boat, so that season appears to be getting longer...

[JNEMETH]

Pokerman,
 Amen brother ! Anyone who has spent a lot of time outdoors these last few decades,and has an unbiased mind, has seen the results of a warmer climate. Action must be taken now, for the sake of our children.

[viciouscircle]

Power Augers, V8 trucks to pull 2 1000cc sleds, V8 trucks to pull fishing boats with 125hp + motors, Big V8 Trucks with engines running outside ice shacks, lol....i bfore anyone has a pop at me i also own a truck ....playing devils advocate.

[scavengerj]

Good thing we enjoyed pretty stable temperatures here for the last couple of thousand years then. Guess we'll go back to the normal cycles of this planet...getting warm then getting cold. I just luv that now they have data from a satelite that went over the North pole a month or so ago and have determined that there is an active volcano under the ice cap that has been actively spewing lava for years. And the best part is, the hole in the ozone layer just happens to be right over this volcano. Global warming? More like the natural cycle of this planet for a few million years. Sure, we may speed it up a bit, but in the big picture it is going to happen whether we like it or not. I am sure the millions and millions of cars have no bigger impact on our weather then does the fact that our entire planet has a molten core giving off gases and heat.

[goinhungry]

I bought the SUV with a six (which is good on gas/emissions, but struggles a bit with the boat some times), a 2hp auger instead of the 3, and I always hoof it out on the ice (especially this year), recycle all my beer cans - I even picked up my first pack of flourescent lightbulbs last night - so I'm doing my little part...

[FrankM]

For every weather expert that believes we caused global warming there are three that don't believe it.  I am not saying that the climate is not warming, but it has not been proven that the warming is caused by human activity.  The ice caps on Mars are also getting smaller so is that our fault too? The sun's energy output is obviously not constant if the ice caps are getting smaller on Mars.  I am not about to give up my car, boat heating my home or anything else just yet.  I certainly believe in conservation of energy so I try not to waste it.  If Al Gore really believed in his theory why is he still living in a giant mansion with $1300 a month electric billls and riding around in a full-size Yukon SUV?   Blaming the current administration for what is happening with the climate today doesn't really make sense.  It's just a knee-jerk reaction to the left-wing biased so called news that we get from the media.  Also I prefer to keep reading my Bible thank you.  I get more useful information from there than any other printed material.  There is more religion than science in "science" books today. A lot of the theories that science books present as facts are unproven and unproveable but still taught as truth.  With that said I still support renewable energy like windmills and solar power because they produce no emissions and building windmills and solar panels creates jobs.  I also favor reducing our consumption of oil in order to reduce the amount of money we give to radical lunatics that want to kill us.

[wnybassman]

figures - this is the year I purchased a power auger 

LOL   I just bought a 14 foot aluminum boat a couple weeks ago, for the winter when my other boat is in storage   

[pyle]

I blame this all on myself...I bought a new Jiffy Auger, and new Heritage Laker tip ups. And some other odds and ends totaling about $500-$600. If I wouldnt have bought anything new we would have atleast a foot of ice.

[scavengerj]

When those mecury filled bulbs burn out, what are people going to do to dispose of them properly? How many people will have to drive their car to take this things to a hazardous waste disposal site?? Then again how many will just throw them in the trash? I think I'd rather face global warming then mecury poisoning. At least global warming will not contaminate the air, soil and water as much or as readily.

[pokerman]

When those mecury filled bulbs burn out, what are people going to do to dispose of them properly? How many people will have to drive their car to take this things to a hazardous waste disposal site?? Then again how many will just throw them in the trash? I think I'd rather face global warming then mecury poisoning. At least global warming will not contaminate the air, soil and water as much or as readily.

I can't help but point out that you, sir, sound like you either have a graduate's degree in biology and chemistry, or are a complete moron.  Can you guess which i am leaning towards?

Pokerman

[pooley]

for millions of years, the weather patterns have done this. i guess alot of people were asleep during that part of class.

[scavengerj]

Wasn't a need for a personal attack. Was just asking and stating what I felt was important to me and something we do have control over.

[Got Ice?]

Wasn't a need for a personal attack. Was just asking and stating what I felt was important to me and something we do have control over.

Though air pollution does cause global warming, maybe that was his point!!!

[scavengerj]

Point taken.
Didn't need to imply someone was a moron to make a point.

[goinhungry]

Point taken.
Didn't need to imply someone was a moron to make a point.

I don't think he was implying - he came right out and said it, which is unfortunate, I think. Personally, I think the free exchange of ideas and not shutting out opposite views is important, but that never seems to happen and it just becomes a personal attack (must be the influence of the elections )

I said it above and I'll say it again (then shut up) - I know enough to know that I don't know enough, and if scientists can't agree either, then I don't think any of us simpletons can say definitively either way....
 

[scavengerj]

I'd agree, there is no one answer or no easy answer and only compounded by the fact that no one has an answer 

[Bartel Rd. Bait & Tackle]

its good to see some sense on here.
my question is how did the ice age end? yep it warmed up and I don't think there where any cars back then
to speed it up.
as far as the republicans. it is them that wanted to drill new on our land to eliviate our dependance on foreign oil. and the dems that screamed noooooo you'll hurt the forest's and land.  however with today's technology
that couldn't be farther from the truth. it's safer to drill now with less impact to the environment that it was when they where slammin wells into texas. 
I love ice fishing as much as anyone else, and there will always be places we can go. I would just like to see us let mother nature run her course. besides if it was such a big problem then the people being most vocal about it would be out there actually doing something in their personal lives to change. ya know gore and his 20 million dollar homes use as much electricity and gas as my house probrably do's in a year. he'd fly commercial instead of in a private jet, he'd put his money where his mouth is. ironically there was a story about the greenest poloticians house it even recycles rain water to be used for irrigation and is 80% solar
its in texas and everybody gasps when they find out it belongs to no other than gw bush look it up its fact.

[jigginoff]

All part of the natural cycle. There hasn't been an ice age in a while. You know what happened before every ice age? It got warm, ice melted, sea levels rose, then it got cold. Some day we'll be gone, just like all the other species that came before us on this planet. As for me, I just wake up every day and smile because I'm still here, there are many who are not here to enjoy the wonderful things the rest of us can, such as ice fishing! So don't worry too much, just be thankful your still here and able to enjoy the hardwater!

[Wellsy]

Let's face it, we miss having two feet of ice on the lakes! well when you get it back are you going to use your spud bar or hand auger? oh, I forgot there is pollution that comes out of steel plants and  land destroyed in the mining process so forget that.
When is the last time you walked or rode your bike to work or better yet....Fishing?
I'll bet there are no plastics in your house and you use straight water in the radiator of your car. Recycle??? Aluminum maybe,Paper o.k,  plastics 3-5% get reused in most items,glass well they tried to use most of that in the roads for a while.
And talk to the Garbage man for how much just goes straight to the dump. I am all for alternative sources, but I am not ready to give up my toys, and stop eating beef because of the pollution that comes from cow crap.
It's always easier to point blame to others than except blame on ourselves. If your intelligent and I am sure you are when did you start believing in the system or better yet a politician to change your world. We work for major industry and support them with our purchases...ALL OF US.


The thought of global warming sucks, and if your looking for a savior from that.
Maybe you should pick up a Bible cause ain't no man gonna save you.
Again it sucks, but lets not throw stones in glass houses.
Besides nuclear bombs and biological weapons will do this world in long before global warming.


Just another moron,
Wellsy

[BABOB]

Not to change the subject, but when calling those in the White House "monkeys" your giving real monkeys a bad name.  Probably one of the few things the Bushy's cant screw up is the weather.

[sinkergurl]

Let's face it, we miss having two feet of ice on the lakes! well when you get it back are you going to use your spud bar or hand auger? oh, I forgot there is pollution that comes out of steel plants and  land destroyed in the mining process so forget that.
When is the last time you walked or rode your bike to work or better yet....Fishing?
I'll bet there are no plastics in your house and you use straight water in the radiator of your car. Recycle??? Aluminum maybe,Paper o.k,  plastics 3-5% get reused in most items,glass well they tried to use most of that in the roads for a while.
And talk to the Garbage man for how much just goes straight to the dump. I am all for alternative sources, but I am not ready to give up my toys, and stop eating beef because of the pollution that comes from cow crap.
It's always easier to point blame to others than except blame on ourselves. If your intelligent and I am sure you are when did you start believing in the system or better yet a politician to change your world. We work for major industry and support them with our purchases...ALL OF US.


The thought of global warming sucks, and if your looking for a savior from that.
Maybe you should pick up a Bible cause ain't no man gonna save you.
Again it sucks, but lets not throw stones in glass houses.
Besides nuclear bombs and biological weapons will do this world in long before global warming.


Just another moron,
Wellsy

You all have very valid points on the issues at hand...but wellsy is correct how can any of us complain about anything when WE THE PEOPLE allow all this to continue...but the question is for how long?

[Irrgang131]

lots of PMS in here

[pooley]

if everybody did as much as possible, it would help. just complaining does nothing.