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guys titanium leaders is total junk.since years(10 years or so) musky fisherman like me have switch from titanium to fluro.for obvious reason!titanium will broke without any visual warning,very poor resinstance vs tortion,i have lost no of fish whit that stuff.i have even lost big cranks witout any fish on it.i know that topic is a lil bit old but if i can save guys a hook and a pike life i'll be happy