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once it sets up, that chunky ice is no diffent than any other ice, same strenghth, but rick at apps said there was a nice ice sheet yesterday 5 inches thick out too the deep water, but there is a few snow drifts and under those drifts the ice hadn't formed well yet, only 2 inches. sorry oneida1 I didn't see this thread when I started mine. be careful near drop offs on early ice , currents from the wind before it froze will still be keeping those areas thinner sometimes.