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The thread started out how to test or remove ethanol, and went way off kilter when Agronomist tried to sell us on ethanol like a politician. Let the market decide what we want to use, not what is forced upon us. Ethanol is hygroscopic, which means it will pull moisture out of the air. Try a little experiment pour a pint of gas in a shallow pan on a humid day and see what happens, this is why you don't want this crap in your fuel tank on your boat or in your unsealed fuel can in the garage. Agronomist I make less money when people take my advise to avoid ethanol in fuel so I have nothing to gain but more satisfied customers. You on the other hand at every opportunity try to sell us on the benefits of ethanol for your financial gain or to brain wash more sheeple. I have no way of testing the quality of fuel any more than you do, so the only way I can guarantee results is to avoid the things I know create trouble.
Again a politician answer. In most case consumers dont have a choice, it is forced on us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . Because it benefits you we are less smart than you. Google ethanol ruined my chainsaw or mower, outboard and see the results. I believe the university of Mich study says the early test results were flawed and pollutants are about the same. We all have our beliefs mine are not steered by money, I have nothing to gain. If I owned a ethanol plant I would have all the answers as it sounds like you have been preaching whats best for us for some time (experienced).
For years I would keep a gallon of 2 cycle for the season. Now it's just not worth it. the stuff goes stale in no time flat. It will run like crap after a month or so. Trll me. If E is so dam good then why is it not allowed by law to be used in aviation fuel. And here on the Ct. we can not get e free at the pump.
Talked to the mechanics at k.I sawyer airport. Asked about ethanol in av gas. Answer was "NO". Up here with our extreme cold winters it won't work. Ethanol attracts water. Result frozen fuel systems. That is from mechanics who work on them. Every winter I see vehicles towed in from a no start or died going down the road. These get pushed in and put up on hoist. 90% of the time its a frozen fuel filter. A lot of vehicles have filter in tank (very stupid idea) they sit in shop overnight to thaw out. A bottle of dry gas usually does the trick. Maybe they are trying ethanol in av gas.
Talked to the mechanics at k.I sawyer airport. Asked about ethanol in av gas. Answer was "NO". Up here with our extreme cold winters it won't work. Ethanol attracts water. Result frozen fuel systems. That is from mechanics who work on them. Every winter I see vehicles towed in from a no start or died going down the road. These get pushed in and put up on hoist. 90% of the time its a frozen fuel filter. A lot of vehicles have filter in tank (very stupid idea) they sit in shop overnight to thaw out. A bottle of dry gas usually does the trick. Maybe they are trying ethanol in av gas. Seems like quite a few planes just fall out if the air lately. Just joking. In bad taste too. From what I read into the story. They want to get rid of the lead in av gas. Lead is mostly a lubricant. Does help valves and valve seats. Think back when we had lead in gas. We would wash our hands with it. Do that with ethanol and it takes all the oil off your skin and makes them sore. I kind of think we are kicking a dead horse here. Those of us who have to fix what it destroys, know its not good in carbureted engines. Those who produce and sell it, have to try to convince otherwise. Use it if you want or have to. Because in the end it makes me money too (sadly). Steve
That is the part where old aircraft need upgrades. I mean I wouldn't expect an old tube tv to work well with by 3D blue ray player.
I agree, but it will take a lot to get that implemented by the FAA to allow the necessary changes to be made. Rubber lines, O-rings, rubber carburetor-injector parts, gas tank bladders and engines would all have to be addressed. The cost to an aircraft owner could potentially be overwhelming, new engines can cost as much as a luxury automobile.
Alcohol is alcohol. Iso, methanol, ethanol doesn't make a difference. Absorb/attract water all the same.