Tragic. Always terrible to hear about this stuff. My understanding of the winni incidents, is that none of them were in the derby, they were up visiting some friends that were fishing the derby, and decided to take a ride out to the broads. There was another group that went through on winni up in moultonboro near long island as well, a family member of my best friend''s wife was one of the casualties. The guy was skimming across open water from what I understand and did not make it.