Author Topic: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice? (Read 45759 times)

chilly-willy · « **Reply #150 on:** Dec 25, 2015, 06:57 AM »

that and the tac-l tool model 20 for janns net craft .com it use to make those wire spinner baits also can be use to wax thread so get the book for it on tackle trick with wire I just got the kit for Christmas so it maybe out of stock or back ordered for a little while...just a heads up you can get the same set up on ebay for $25 plus $12.95 s&h but you get wire with the net craft kit so better deal some cool stuff In that book so you may want it just a heads up! even if you do not make your own spinner even if you troll lures etc.. etc... they even have plans on how to make bobbin for fly tying in it... tons of plan in it .... real neat stuff...

Mac Attack · « **Reply #151 on:** Dec 25, 2015, 09:57 PM »

Quote from: rgfixit on Dec 24, 2015, 08:18 AM

Makes an interesting woven nymph.

Materials are everywhere

Rg

I really like these bob.
Awesome job.

Raquettedacker · « **Reply #152 on:** Dec 26, 2015, 05:43 AM »

Quote from: attack on Dec 25, 2015, 09:57 PM

I really like these bob.Awesome job.

Hint. Hint.

rgfixit · « **Reply #153 on:** Dec 26, 2015, 05:45 PM »

Mac's far from bashful. If he wanted some he'd ask

Rg

jthod · « **Reply #154 on:** Dec 29, 2015, 06:42 PM »

Tried out some zooplankton jigs.

1. Tied on the hackle facing the eye of the hook.

2. Added internal color with floss.

3. Threaded on tungsten slotted tear drop. (found them on ebay from Aventik)

4. Coated jig with cheap 60 second set 2 part epoxy.

merkleyb · « **Reply #155 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 12:15 AM »

Those look awesome! Let me know when you're having a sale...

rgfixit · « **Reply #156 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 02:22 AM »

Ooooo! I like those.

Rg

chilly-willy · « **Reply #157 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 03:51 AM »

jthod those are awesome.. have you tried rod finish instead of 2 hour set epoxy? some thing like thread mater lite or high build? thread master lite is the clearest stuff I came across so far for finishes I use Devcon and gorilla glue epoxies like 5 minute set for rod handles etc etc... but those cure so quick the bubbles don't have time to release from the epoxy.... then they get a milky white look with bubbles in the epoxy.... you need a fly turner the kind with a foam block on a bbq rotisserie motor... let tyhem dry in it for at least 24 hours that's 12 hour of harden time and leave them in the foam don't touch the flies till it is perfectly dry to the touch... check the mixed epoxy in the pot / cup for sticky ness ... some times I touch my finished epoxy @12 hours and it is to early and smudges are left behind ... is why I say that... by the way mix the epoxy 50/50 perfectly or it will harden to fast to much hardener or not cure at all to mush resin if one is off by enough... it is just a suggestion but I see crystal flash in the photo should wrap that around the hook and put rod finish over it???so it sparkles under neath the epoxy...those ice flies are awesome so let see what they look like after the rod finish idea? as a mater of fact I got some thread master sitting around mite try it my slef.... thanks for the idea if any thing.....

Raquettedacker · « **Reply #158 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 06:47 AM »

I got some awesome ice flies ,made out of peacock feathers, in the mail and they look great..

Tied some on a couple ice rods yesterday... One above a Halie and one above a jig...
Now I need ice..

Thank you KC....

jthod · « **Reply #159 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 08:20 AM »

The 60 second epoxy is far from ideal, but I had is sitting around. It's nice that it sets up fast, but the finished product isn't as good and clear as it could be with better epoxy.

I don't think the fish will notice.

rgfixit · « **Reply #160 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 08:31 AM »

I know I'm a broken record, but you gotta spring for some UV cure acrylic. So much easier.

Rg

jthod · « **Reply #161 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 11:05 AM »

yeah, say that $30 2oz tube at the tackle shop this weekend, and laughed.

maybe someday.

rgfixit · « **Reply #162 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 01:35 PM »

Loon UV

Search a little and you'll get it for around $25. Don't buy their light. Way over priced. I can steer you in a good direction for around $10. A 2oz bottle will last you a really long time.

Rg

jthod · « **Reply #163 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 02:12 PM »

That's the same brand the tackle shop had.

I have a UV light already for work, so I got that covered.

rgfixit · « **Reply #164 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 04:04 PM »

The UV light needs to be between 375 and 450nm if I'm not mistaken.

Rg

jthod · « **Reply #165 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 05:26 PM »

Ah, not sure what this one is. It's a light for detecting florescent dye in AC systems.

merkleyb · « **Reply #166 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 07:01 PM »

I use my girls clear nail polish hardener. You may need a couple coats, but it dries hard and clear. And it's cheap - especially when you swipe it from your woman.

esox_xtm · « **Reply #167 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 07:02 PM »

Rg you got me sold on the Loon acrylic. Just point me in a direction for the light. I looked @ UV lasers and they were all $25 and up. I leap at a $5 version.......or even $10.

Adkrs · « **Reply #168 on:** Dec 30, 2015, 09:36 PM »

So I was bored. Cruising IS waiting for ice.... Figured I'd see what this thread was all about. By the end of it I want to tie flies and see if I can't trick some gills or brookies!

You guys are incredibly creative and very handy. Those spikes and scuds would fool me, let alone fool fish! Where should one look for somebody interested in starting out? Any recommended reading? Most of you seem to fish these as droppers, but what do you fish for? Im thinking I'm going to try to tie for brookies. I've never used a fly ice fishing, but I'm quite curious!

rgfixit · « **Reply #169 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 02:27 AM »

Here you go Esox.
Laser Pointer

It's the same one I use. 405nm. $10 + $2 shipping.

Adkrs,
I'm a fly fisher....almost year round. Tying keeps me from going coo kno in the off months. Using flies for ice fishing is just adaptation. Kind of a "Hey.....why not!". Turns out it works and opens up a whole new genre of flies to play with.

Tying your own just grows on you. The more you do....the more you do. I've given this same advice many times on this site and on MyFishfinder. Pick a fly you want to tie. Get the materials for that fly and work on it. Then move on. You'll be surprised at how easy and fun it is.

There's a zillion YouTube videos you can watch. I like Tightlines videos a lot. They are very specific, simple and always offer a tip/trick or two. In fact, I was watching one the other day on a steelhead fly and learned a new technique for controlling thread on fussy materials. The Orvis web site always lists some, but you can search it and find their channel. The other I watch a lot of is Davie McPhail. He's a master......period. I've tried, and sometimes successfully, to copy many of his patterns. His knowledge of materials is unequaled in my opinion.

If you want a list of stuff to get you started, I'm sure we'll oblige. For now, all I'll say is, don't buy a kit! You'll outgrow it very quickly.

Rg

rgfixit · « **Reply #170 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 02:30 AM »

Quote from: merkleyb on Dec 30, 2015, 07:01 PM

I use my girls clear nail polish hardener. You may need a couple coats, but it dries hard and clear. And it's cheap - especially when you swipe it from your woman.

Man....I've looked at those setups more times than I can count. If only my Bride did her nails like that $:-\$

Rg

merkleyb · « **Reply #171 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 03:34 AM »

I bought a cheap kit when I started out. It came with a VHS tape made by Lefty Kreh. Great teacher.

rgfixit · « **Reply #172 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 04:25 AM »

Thought is share a couple tips for using the UV cure stuff.

It likes to be warm. Not hot, just around 70-75 degrees. I found this scent warmer for those wax cube scents at goodwill for $1.

Works the nuts.

Bodkins.....you can't have enough of an assortment of bodkins for fly tying. I make my own from various stuff. Darning needles from Wally World work great.

As I said, I have a few UV lights. The laser pointer works the best.

Head cements etc. The head cements sold in fly shops are way overpriced as you'd expect. Get a variety of super glues and some Sally Hard As Nails and you have all you need. Zap a Gap is great stuff for certain applications.

The Loctite brush on is one of my favorites.

Double edged razor blades are great tools too. Again, cheap at Wally World or Big Lots.

And....don't forget your Popsicle sticks. All sorts of stuff you bpcan use them for like dubbing brushes and strip cutters.

Merklyb, I started with a pair of needle nose vise grips clamped to a bench and the good old Orvis fly tying guide. Still have it somewhere in my library

Rg

RIVERRAT2 · « **Reply #173 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 05:20 AM »

Rg
GREAT info, thanks will use it

RAT

MochaMay · « **Reply #174 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 05:59 AM »

I'm just starting to tie my own hair jigs and this thread is the cats Meow!

THX for sharing all the info!

Also thought I would post a video link from a guy that ties his jigs on the ice while fishing. This guy has a ball! Fun video IMHO.

esox_xtm · « **Reply #175 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 06:13 AM »

Thanks Bob, just ordered my UV pointer. I haven't been much into small stuff but I've got most of what I need anyway. Nice list for beginners too.......

rgfixit · « **Reply #176 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 06:55 AM »

Quote from: MochaMay on Dec 31, 2015, 05:59 AM

I'm just starting to tie my own hair jigs and this thread is the cats Meow!

THX for sharing all the info!

Also thought I would post a video link from a guy that ties his jigs on the ice while fishing. This guy has a ball! Fun video IMHO.

I've seen that guy's videos. He's a riot. Gets into the fish too.

Esox, let me know if you need anything.

Rg

trapper2000 · « **Reply #177 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 07:00 AM »

having tied a few flies myself I must say I am impressed with the collection of bodkins....bodkins are the first tool that is misplaced and are always found in strange places once you don't need one....I personally belive they are moved by bench demons but bobs point of making them is a good one you can have several when you need one ( I am the worse for laying stuff down and not seeing it after) but also using a piece of dowl for a handle you can make them fit your hand much better then the then ones you buy .....

ps I shave with a double edge razor wal mart is the cheapest blades I found

rgfixit · « **Reply #178 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 01:50 PM »

Hey Trapper, I bought an item at Walmart that you told me about when we talked the other day. Several different colors. Found many more on line. Bought a little gun too. Started playing with them this morning. I like it!

On another note, Trapper was my inspiration to get back into tying after many years away from it. I lost all of my tying supplies and equipment in a bad basement flood and kind of gave up. With his encouragement and support I once again became hopelessly addicted to tying flies and fly fishing.

Thanks a lot you rotten SOB....you cost me a ton of money

Happy New Year bud! Health and prosperity to you and your family. I can never thank you enough.

Rg

Adkrs · « **Reply #179 on:** Dec 31, 2015, 02:17 PM »

Good stuff. I'll look into it. Fly fishing has been on the bucket list for awhile now. Was already planning on getting a kayak to fish some backwater adk ponds for trout. Might as well get into fly fishing too!

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Author Topic: Hey Fly Tiers, What's In The Vice For Ice? (Read 45759 times)