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Offline BaitBucket

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What is really stupid is that you can buy a "Canadian made" Strikemaster Lazer
in Canada that comes with an offset handle but you cant get one in the good ole 'USA.

Why would a company manufacture a superior version of its signature product and limit its sales to certain countries?

complete rediculousness!


Strikemaster Lazer doesnt have an off set handle in US either.
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Offline frmboybuck

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Why not use rigid conduit and make one?

Offline Shack man Shoney

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It would be easy to build, i would use ridgid aluminum because its lightweight and wont rust. Just have to know the dimensions.....

Offline Reel trouble

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Conduit is to light and besides it would crush where the wing bolt goes threw as it pinches the handle to one side of the lower part of the auger.  I suppose you could drive some round uhmw into the part where the wing bolt goes threw so it wouldn't crush. also getting the bends would be some what difficult to get right for a first timer using a bender.  I looked at all those options and found it easiest to adapt a nils handle and it works fantastic

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Nils Master, fabricate a adapter to fit a Strike Master.

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Made 3 of them  ;D


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Nice work.

Offline Reel trouble

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Thank you they work really well well worth the effort everyone who uses them say i didn't realize how much difference the offset handle makes  ;D

Offline mbart

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The double offset handle is more efficient, your using both hands while drilling.

Offline mushroom_capd_1

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I love it!!! ...about the only offset handles I see nowadays are bolt-ons!!! ...nothing wrong with that, but I'll keep on laughing when these kids need a hand auger!

Offline Reel trouble

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Indeed i really dont think hand augers should come any other way. Once you use them there is no going back up until this year i use to drill 50 to 75 holes a day for my wife and i as Idaho allows you to use 5 poles per person. This year i got a new power auger to try :) those extended 3 and 4 day trips will be much nicer. But here is how the augers drill

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Conduit is to light and besides it would crush where the wing bolt goes threw as it pinches the handle to one side of the lower part of the auger.  I suppose you could drive some round uhmw into the part where the wing bolt goes threw so it wouldn't crush. also getting the bends would be some what difficult to get right for a first timer using a bender.  I looked at all those options and found it easiest to adapt a nils handle and it works fantastic
Rigid conduit is stronger than the handle that came with my Lazer, it's pretty stout stuff.

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has to do with paten laws like patented paten pending etc... brother is going back to college to be a paten lawyer he is already bared her in Michigan and practicing. any how Canada is different then the usa and china and every other county that is why some on in this county already own the paten on the handle is more then likely the problem like ht augers see the problem....that why they sell the offset polar fire auger...if they wanted to they could pay royalty's on using it but probably won't...     

I don't believe that it's patented because Strikemaster sold them as a optional item years ago. I bought one from their Strikemaster store.
A patent is good for 17 years and that offset handle has been available longer than that. It is strictly a money issue. The straight handle is cheaper to manufacture.
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Offline Reel trouble

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Rigid conduit is stronger than the handle that came with my Lazer, it's pretty stout stuff.
I see i must have been thinking of the regular stuff

I don't believe that it's patented because Strikemaster sold them as a optional item years ago. I bought one from their Strikemaster store.
A patent is good for 17 years and that offset handle has been available longer than that. It is strictly a money issue. The straight handle is cheaper to manufacture.

 I dont believe its that what i think it is if you make a hand auger the best you can that drills easy and fast you wont sell as many power augers.

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I see i must have been thinking of the regular stuff

 I dont believe its that what i think it is if you make a hand auger the best you can that drills easy and fast you wont sell as many power augers.

I doubt that. I would think it comes down to the mold or jig they use to make them. There is probably one manufacture that makes all the hand augers in the U.S. That manufacturer prya doesnt have offset mold or jig, so when asked about the offset handle the quote is prya crazy high.

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Just buy a fin bor already comes with offset handle.
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I doubt that. I would think it comes down to the mold or jig they use to make them. There is probably one manufacture that makes all the hand augers in the U.S. That manufacturer prya doesnt have offset mold or jig, so when asked about the offset handle the quote is prya crazy high.

Is there any augers that are made in the USA ? Thought most of them came from China and Sweden now.  Almost everything from Sweden comes with an offset handle Strike master and  Eskimo both come from china now.  There isnt a company that imports hand augers in the US that doesn't also sell power augers as well so i think it is a possibility that they dont want you to have too good of hand auger just my thoughts   

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Made 3 of them  ;D

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Glad you made three! Now you can send me one and still have a spare! 😃

Offline Reel trouble

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Lol I would but all three of them are stuck in augers wife says i have an auger problem  ::)

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I don't believe that it's patented because Strikemaster sold them as a optional item years ago. I bought one from their Strikemaster store.
A patent is good for 17 years and that offset handle has been available longer than that. It is strictly a money issue. The straight handle is cheaper to manufacture.

I bought a set of offset handles from Strikemaster for Lazer some years ago too. All my hand augers have offset handles as they are superior to inline handles. I guess the companies that sell augers in the states think Americans cannot move both hands at the same time to drill holes. ::) I love my Finbore hand augers which come with the offset handles but they can be hard to get ahold of here in the states, the few that come in go quick.

I suspect the reason we don't get the Mora Ice of Sweden brand ice augers like in Europe here in the US is all because of Strikemaster. Strikemaster gets augers and parts from Mora and they know their sales would go in the crapper if the superior Mora designed augers become available here in the states.

Offline Dustr

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I suspect the reason we don't get the Mora Ice of Sweden brand ice augers like in Europe here in the US is all because of Strikemaster. Strikemaster gets augers and parts from Mora and they know their sales would go in the crapper if the superior Mora designed augers become available here in the states.

We have a winner! What is sold here are the two lowest end augers by Mora of Sweden in the shaver blade and cupped blade style heads. Mora markets them over there as an introductory auger but with the offset handle as standard. I have never seen our ridiculous type of handle in the Swedish or Finnish secondary markets. I guess they must still be in negotiations about how much they would be forced to cheapen a higher end auger to satisfy the importers greed. Remember the China cutting blades? That never happened over there.

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I was glad to see the complete switch to Chinese blades came around and bit Strikemaster on the behind. Too bad the consumer had to suffer because SM wanted to increase their margins.

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Will the new telescopic fin bore handle fit the strikemaster,moras and Eskimos?


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Will the new telescopic fin bore handle fit the strikemaster,moras and Eskimos?

From what I can tell the finbore is a lazer auger with the offest handle. I would think it should work.

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Will the new telescopic fin bore handle fit the strikemaster,moras and Eskimos?
Just got a new Finbore last week...I will check and see if the handle fits on my old eskimo barracuda when I get home.

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Made 3 of them  ;D

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Reel trouble that is nice work.i have a offset mora auger that's missing the top handle grip.what grips did you use?i cant find a replacement top handle grip for my offset mora auger anywhere.

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Looks like a primer bulb from a boat? LOL
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Will the new telescopic fin bore handle fit the strikemaster,moras and Eskimos?
Well I tried the finbore handle in the old eskimo barracuda and it did fit, but it was a bit tight. The barracuda is a bit old though and might have a little rust inside the drill where the handle goes in.  The barracuda handle did fit the finbore drill no problem.

 



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