I have the 23 ul , and I like it, I was concerned about the posts that complained about the eyes, (how small they were), and I would have to agree, I mainly fish in a flipover, so it wasn't too bad, but I did notice the eyes of the ts froze up sooner than other rods I have, but I like the backbone of it, and the sensitive tip action is good .....It made it thru the first season without me breaking it, so that is a plus....I'm not sure its worth the 50 bucks you gotta spend, I think I could find something I would like just as much, If I could look over some selections,but I don't get to see a wide selection of ice fishing stuff, here in central pa..I am glad to have one , but like I said, I think you could find something just as good for less $$$