We both started new to the hard water fishing last year and after a blah first year. we started this year with a goal 10 pound fish, didn't matter what it was just had to be a 10 pounder. So we got out early yesterday with the understanding that it would likely be out last time out this season, and we got it done! Next year 15 pounds, 40 inches, would be great to join the 40 club.