most of the perch I have caught out of sportsmans are in the 10-12inch range, well the ones that go in the bucket, just need to put the shotgun down and stop chasing the honkers and pick up the rods and get out there, most of the time I spend out there is chasing the perch, it's nothing to drill 40 or so holes in a day trying to keep up with them, but then again a few other places, hidden coves have alot more perch and less pressure