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We use dead bait up here and I always have to add some lead weight (stuffed inside the sucker or smelt) to take it down.I know that it is not politically correct to add lead to a lake bottom nowdays but,Ive never lost any yet-it always stays inside the smelt which comes out of the pikes mouth with the hook. We don't have a lead ban up here yet but,it's coming and then I suppose I'll have to use something else.