I gave it another go and set it up im my living room. No problems. Looks great, and it's plenty big. I bet I can set in up in less than a minute and 1/2. Probably, take it down that quick too. The real test will be on the ice and as mentioned--with the wind. Now, I just have to figure out how to transport it. I think I am just going to place it on top of my jet sled jr., on top of 2 buckets, and bungied down. It looks like a backpack bag but you cant walk with that on your back. The bottom hits your ankles. I was a little dissapointed with that fact because it is misleading, but I can live with it. It does seem pretty durable, and well made. The litmus test will be in a few days. Thanks for the input. I got some good suggestions. One, which Combsey mentioned, is to tie a little rope to each pull loop. I think that's a great idea because it is a little tricky grasping for them in the middle of all that bulk of material. I also like the idea putting a stake in one grommet while setting up and taking down. Makes sense.