Depends on where you are and what they eat. Out west here they are usually shallow on the first drop on the bottom in 10'-15' early in the morning (minnow bite) then go down to about 20-30' after crawdads later in the day. We use a variety of baits including brass and firetiger Kastmasters, 3" Gitzits tipped with perch meat or eyes and brown/orange marabou jigs in 1/16 ounce tipped with mealy or perch meat.