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I must say, I am impressed. It is nice to see some eloquent, well written posts and opinions. Both sides of the issue are well stated, starting with a perhaps a bit overstated opinion by Iceaddict followed by a well written mea culpa by billybob 851 and an excellent rejoinder by burningdownthehouse. All proof we are more than just a bunch of dumb rednecks. It is nice to read some posts and commentary infused with more than YEH! X2 , Nice Fish, That's what I'm talking about and mindless commentary and quips of one another's fishing exploits. As iceaddict stated , that is his opinion and properly shared by many on this forum, however it has always been my opinion that we ISers are here not only to kibitx and chide one another about our fishing skills or lack thereof, but also to welcome our newbies and those who are honestly seeking improvement with their fishing skills. I myself have had to map this perilous trek to acquire ice fishing mastery, alternately through self deprecating humor and honest genuine inquiry. It is no dishonor to ask questions. It is however laziness on the part of the knowledge seeker as nightfisher has alluded to in the previous post when the answer is available with a little extra back reading. Further, it has always been my nature to go directly to the source. I make every effort to first read and then to develop a relationship with the person I am seeking to gain knowledge from primarily via PMing them. That way, the offerer of knowledge is left to sift through his emails and to determine if he or she chooses to share this knowledge or not. This is not to say, iceaddict, Snagger, Filetandrelease ,KP, DD or Sully are obligated to respond, but it yields to them the option of answering or not. This way the inquirer is not subject to full frontal assault for asking the most benign of questions. Lastly, all of the aforementioned and many other experts I have failed to mention are genuine emissaries of the sport and will depart to you as much information as they feel you can handle. We, here in the central and northern region have a great bunch of guys to learn from. We are so blessed, just don't ask me the co-ordinates of the "Honey Hole"
good fishing to all the Oneida lake diehards , I don't want to know anyone fishing spot or how to fish just want to know if there any access of the north shore off of Cleveland for my 4 Wheeler. coming out next weekendYes right at APP's landing you can park there and drive off end of point right onto the ice
Part of the reason I love fishing is the challenge. Things change day to day. You have to learn to adapt, to pick up on patterns, and try every trick in the book. And sometimes that's not even enough. I'll say it again. It's called fishing not catching. If you caught everything you wanted every time out it wouldnt be as fun or rewarding would it?
I used to take personal time out of my schedule to teach adults and most importantly youngsters how to ice fish. It's just that sometimes it gets a bit frustrating lending an ear or giving some friendly advice to strangers on the forums, just to end up getting aggravated because it wasn't enough for some as they make that perfectly clear when they pm you asking for more detailed information, then get mad because you didn't offer up your coordinates. It's just crazy to me, but like I said earlier, maybe I'm on my own in my views, but I know there are many others here that feel the same. I used to contribute much more to this forum but was overwhelmed with inconsiderate people after a while. When it comes to getting help along the way, yes, yes I have been given pointers by other more experienced fisherman at some point or another, and I am still learning. I am 45 years old now, and as God is my witness I've made my own path in this sport, way back when, I fished by myself 95 percent of the time, I used to get my hands on every fathomable piece of info I could so that I could gain knowledge and put it to the test, that gave me a sense of accomplishment that I would not trade with anyone ever! I've ice fished on every possible level one can think of, from national championships In the furthest reaches of northern minessota and Wisconsin too backyard ponds with kids. I consider myself somewhat of an ambassador to the sport, through the countless hours I've spent on the ice to teaching kids how to fish at pre tournament clinics. I just wanted to get one thing straight, I have ALWAYS done what I can to help others out in this sport, but it gets frustrating sometimes when people basically expect handouts, I guess that's the world we live in now for the most part, instant gratification at all costs, makes me kinda sad that's all. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers here, I was just trying to get a point across.
hit the north shore this morning and tried for eyes on a drop off. i dumped like 4 at the hole . made a big move out to 32' and marked a couple then got a phone call from KP. made one more move and ended up with 20 nice perch. i know KP and Coach had more then me the weather was horrible with wind and snow. must be like 6-8" out there now + drifts.got some big ones and some medium sized ones today. also my second biggest perch of the year so far. 13 5/8 "
sorry but that happens , fishing is always slow and they really don't have any pride at all , they just want to catch fish , know what they say about nice guys
Another great day on the Big O today. Had a chance a fish with a old friend today (eyehole). He taught me a good lesson between 7 and 8 am...to a point where I was getting a tad cranky listening to him pound the eyes with a few consolation jumbo's. I made a move literally 15 feet next him and it paid off. He continued to outfish me until I changed to a different rod and reel. We both dropped as many eyes as we iced and lost count. The action stopped around 11:00 am. Notice the whiteout we were fishing in when he took a pic of the 22 incher that went back in the hole. I was on top of 14 inches of ice on the North Shore. Moved to look for perch but they were holding tight to the bottom. Thanks for a great day Mike...one to remember
well done guys MM,KP, Coach And HT , and coach quizzed me on spot and lure , that was fun super count guys , and nice fish and IceAddict your a solid guy your top notch in my book and a great ice fishermen , always an honor to eye fish along side you and your buds
