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douglas langeberg Posted At 22:08:22 11/14/2001
built a shanty, next part is heating. I am wondering if those catalytic heaters are actually safe like they say in the ad for use in an enclosed area such as a shanty? They are from Fleet Farm and run on a propane cylinder.

LoneWolf Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 17:33:19 11/15/2001
Doug the only safe one I've read about has been the Mr.
Heater-it has a low oxygen shut off system.I believe it's called the Buddy Heater and can run off 1 lb cylinders. Hope this helps, Doug

Bob Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 10:29:49 11/16/2001
Doug, I have a catalytic heater and used last year and had no problems with low oxygen. I have a cabela's do it your self shanty and that heater is to small it will not heat it to the point that you are sweating but it will keep the extreme cold off and I have stayed in my shanty until the one pound bottle ran out. Hope this helps..

Clint Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 01:52:12 11/22/2001
Doug,
I use a Mr Heater in plastic portables, but have found while using candles for lighting the holes at night that the candles start to flicker and burn low, indicating that the oxygen is getting down. Without a candle burning, such as during the day, a person might just think they're just getting tired.
I've talked to people who couldn't get their cigarette lighters to stay going long enough to light a smoke before they realized that their oxygen was almost gone. They're eally nice heaters, but a person needs to open the doors frequently, or just leave one zipped down enough to feel a breeze, especially if you have a plastic poratble that is banked with snow.
Clint

Iceshanty Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 17:09:54 11/22/2001
This is when a two doored porta shanti is nice, what I do is leave one door cracked open on the bottom and the other door open on the top a little. This creates a nice flow of fresh air through the shack even when the wind is not blowing.

Bob Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 19:00:39 11/28/2001
Look up ZODI.com they make a heater that draws in fresh air and heats it in a heat exchanger then pipes the heated air where you want it. They are not cheap but they are very safe. I have a friend that uses one in his tent when deer hunting they dont get motels. Look them up then e-mail them they will send you a brochure.
Good Luck safe fishing

Robb Hanson Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 17:14:35 12/16/2001
Heating a well sealed ice shack with a propane heater can be incredibly dangerous not because of low oxygen, but because of carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide poisons the body in much the same way cyanide does. It bonds to red blood cells and doesn't let go for a long time. After a long enough exposure oxygen can't get in your system because the carbon monoxide has taken all the red blood cells, and thus you basically suffocate.
You need to keep the shack ventilated, or use a heater with a chimney to be safe, or buy a CO detector at Wal-Mart, it really could save your life.

Fisher Dan Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 20:22:17 12/16/2001
Doug
I use these catalytic heaters on a daily basis in Canadian oilfield(Saskatchewan)They are perfectly safe, for the simple fact that their is no actual flame burning(without going into extreme detail and confusing people)yes there is no flame; therfor no oxygen is being used for a flame and no chimney is needed. I have used these heaters in the many ice shacks i have built and sold to locall guys and non of them are dead. Plain and simple they are safe. Besides most shacks are not sealed like a zip lock bag.One thing to think about is your size of shack to size of heater. 6x8 go 10000btu 8x16ft go 20000 to 30000 btu. That should have no problem keeping a shack warm. Hope this sets you at ease.

Curt Guntzvilelr Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 21:26:03 12/24/2001
a few years back i built a ice shanty 5x6 1/2, i put a propane stove that is vented out the side, this works awesome! my frind did the same with a wood stove, look up propane stoves, mine cost around $70.
(they also work good for deer shanties)
-keep your stick on the ice!

sam seabury Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 17:30:07 12/30/2001
fisher dan is quite wrong. just because you cant see a flame does not mean that there is some way around creating carbon monoxide when burning fuel. if you are using a portable ice shack, a stove and chimney may not be practical. a candle will only show if oxygen is low. take robb hanson's
advise, it could save your life---it will also give you
peace-of-mind ----i.e. am i tired or monoxide poisoned.

flag up
sam

keenan henke Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 09:29:09 01/04/2002
we use a double burner Mr. Heater with a 20 pound tank and it keeps us really warm with just one of the heaters on. we can fish with our tee shirts on

Dman Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 11:01:19 01/04/2002
I have a 8x10 and I use a kerosene heater. People use them in extra bedrooms and for extra heat in houses. The smell is much, much less than propane, hardly noticable, and is realitivly cheap to heat. A gallon of kerosene will last 12 hours.

L. Mueller Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 09:17:20 01/10/2002
I purchased a Mr. Buddy heater from mills fleet farm and I've used it for 3 years now and it still works great. I've never had any problems with the ventilation. I run it off 1 pound clinders and it lasts for about 10 hours on medium heat. I think it's a good choice for shanties, stands, and blinds.

mcgooo Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 09:11:40 01/15/2002
I have a mr buddy and it works great.One word of caution,my daughter got two close and it burned(melted) a whole in her jacket and snow pants.Always vent your hut a little when using a portable heater.

Mcgoo Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 09:18:16 01/15/2002
I purchased a mr.buddy from cabelas.Works great but a word of caution.My daughter got to close and it burned(melted)a whole in her jacket and snow pants.Always vent your hut little every now and then when using a portable heater.

Mcgoo Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 09:22:31 01/15/2002
I purchased a mr.buddy from cabelas.Works great but a word of caution.My daughter got to close and it burned(melted)a hole in her jacket and snow pants.Always vent your hut a little every now and then when using a portable heater.

Lex Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 09:35:48 01/16/2002
Mr buddy heaters are not vent free..they need a vent, and the tighter your place the more conscentrated the fumes. Remember, Carbon Monoxide is colorless and orderless and builds up over time. A direct vent heater is the best for permanent fish houses, with a small vent free second best.
I like the Eskabe Vent free heater, personally.

D Burke Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 01:53:50 01/21/2002
I use a propane heater similer to what the phone co uses up here in northern Ont.Heats up quick and you can cook on it! it does have an open flame (carbon monoxide)but I put a closable vent at the top of my hut and along with the 3 holes for fishing and running to check the lines outside (we are aloud 2 lineds per person)the hut I feel the air in the hut is being exchanged frequintly enough

cal Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 20:47:50 01/21/2002
peavey mart has a coleman 1lb bottle heater that sells for 44.00 ( on sale). it is an electronic ignition and runs for about 13 hours per bottle.i have a portable shanty and have a ventilation hole in the top part of the wall.each bottle runs for about 3 to 4.00 but i have gotten them on sale for 2.00. this unit comes with a large handle and about a 1 foot round base which makes it very portable and light.i have found that it will keep the shack (40inch wide by 6 ft long by 6ft high)very comfortable.if you are worried about ventilation leave a portion of the shack close to a hole uncovered by snow and if there is any wind the draft will find the hold and keep ventilation running. too many poeple try for airtight conditions.i find i am always opening the door to see who is catching what and who is lying about a big one ...

todd Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 10:47:55 01/24/2002
I use a latern to heat my shack. Enough heat to stay warm and light when you need it.

shawn Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 19:13:09 02/10/2002
The Mr. Buddy heater is a real nice heater, only weighs 7lbs and throws enough heat for a 250sqft. area, you can place the unit anywhere, even against the cloth cover on your portables because the back of it never gets hot. It also has its own igniter button so you dont need matches or lighters. I would definately recommend this heater to anyone.

beyer Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 20:20:19 02/13/2002
I was wondering where I could find a wood burning stove for a 8x8 shack i am planning on building. Also if anyone has a layout for an 8x8 shack that would be nice too.

shawn Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 19:10:25 02/14/2002
Beyer,

I have seen woodburning stoves in the Northern tool catalog and also in cabelas master catalog.

Hope this helps you,
Shawn

Jon Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 13:32:08 03/05/2002
I have used a propane stove in my shacks for 10 years now, and the heaters I use have got to be the safest I know of. When I go to spend 1-4 days at the Allagash "Condo" the last thing I am gonna bet my life on is watching a candle to see if there is enough air to breath, I am real surprized there is so many people out there trusting their and their friends lives to a candle,I'm surprized we haven't lost a bunch of them. The stoves I use are 16,000 btu direct vent propane stoves equipped with a thermo coupler incase the flame goes out, they cost $100. plus shipping. They are very cost efficiant to operate and to my knowledge and experiance are quite bullet proof. email me if you have any questions I'll be glad to help you. I just would like everyone to be safe and have fun doing it. LET THE FLAGS FLY!!!

Author	Subject: heater for shanty
douglas langeberg	Posted At 22:08:22 11/14/2001 built a shanty, next part is heating. I am wondering if those catalytic heaters are actually safe like they say in the ad for use in an enclosed area such as a shanty? They are from Fleet Farm and run on a propane cylinder.
LoneWolf	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 17:33:19 11/15/2001 Doug the only safe one I've read about has been the Mr. Heater-it has a low oxygen shut off system.I believe it's called the Buddy Heater and can run off 1 lb cylinders. Hope this helps, Doug
Bob	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 10:29:49 11/16/2001 Doug, I have a catalytic heater and used last year and had no problems with low oxygen. I have a cabela's do it your self shanty and that heater is to small it will not heat it to the point that you are sweating but it will keep the extreme cold off and I have stayed in my shanty until the one pound bottle ran out. Hope this helps..
Clint	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 01:52:12 11/22/2001 Doug, I use a Mr Heater in plastic portables, but have found while using candles for lighting the holes at night that the candles start to flicker and burn low, indicating that the oxygen is getting down. Without a candle burning, such as during the day, a person might just think they're just getting tired. I've talked to people who couldn't get their cigarette lighters to stay going long enough to light a smoke before they realized that their oxygen was almost gone. They're eally nice heaters, but a person needs to open the doors frequently, or just leave one zipped down enough to feel a breeze, especially if you have a plastic poratble that is banked with snow. Clint
Iceshanty	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 17:09:54 11/22/2001 This is when a two doored porta shanti is nice, what I do is leave one door cracked open on the bottom and the other door open on the top a little. This creates a nice flow of fresh air through the shack even when the wind is not blowing.
Bob	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 19:00:39 11/28/2001 Look up ZODI.com they make a heater that draws in fresh air and heats it in a heat exchanger then pipes the heated air where you want it. They are not cheap but they are very safe. I have a friend that uses one in his tent when deer hunting they dont get motels. Look them up then e-mail them they will send you a brochure. Good Luck safe fishing
Robb Hanson	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 17:14:35 12/16/2001 Heating a well sealed ice shack with a propane heater can be incredibly dangerous not because of low oxygen, but because of carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide poisons the body in much the same way cyanide does. It bonds to red blood cells and doesn't let go for a long time. After a long enough exposure oxygen can't get in your system because the carbon monoxide has taken all the red blood cells, and thus you basically suffocate. You need to keep the shack ventilated, or use a heater with a chimney to be safe, or buy a CO detector at Wal-Mart, it really could save your life.
Fisher Dan	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 20:22:17 12/16/2001 Doug I use these catalytic heaters on a daily basis in Canadian oilfield(Saskatchewan)They are perfectly safe, for the simple fact that their is no actual flame burning(without going into extreme detail and confusing people)yes there is no flame; therfor no oxygen is being used for a flame and no chimney is needed. I have used these heaters in the many ice shacks i have built and sold to locall guys and non of them are dead. Plain and simple they are safe. Besides most shacks are not sealed like a zip lock bag.One thing to think about is your size of shack to size of heater. 6x8 go 10000btu 8x16ft go 20000 to 30000 btu. That should have no problem keeping a shack warm. Hope this sets you at ease.
Curt Guntzvilelr	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 21:26:03 12/24/2001 a few years back i built a ice shanty 5x6 1/2, i put a propane stove that is vented out the side, this works awesome! my frind did the same with a wood stove, look up propane stoves, mine cost around $70. (they also work good for deer shanties) -keep your stick on the ice!
sam seabury	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 17:30:07 12/30/2001 fisher dan is quite wrong. just because you cant see a flame does not mean that there is some way around creating carbon monoxide when burning fuel. if you are using a portable ice shack, a stove and chimney may not be practical. a candle will only show if oxygen is low. take robb hanson's advise, it could save your life---it will also give you peace-of-mind ----i.e. am i tired or monoxide poisoned. flag up sam
keenan henke	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 09:29:09 01/04/2002 we use a double burner Mr. Heater with a 20 pound tank and it keeps us really warm with just one of the heaters on. we can fish with our tee shirts on
Dman	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 11:01:19 01/04/2002 I have a 8x10 and I use a kerosene heater. People use them in extra bedrooms and for extra heat in houses. The smell is much, much less than propane, hardly noticable, and is realitivly cheap to heat. A gallon of kerosene will last 12 hours.
L. Mueller	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 09:17:20 01/10/2002 I purchased a Mr. Buddy heater from mills fleet farm and I've used it for 3 years now and it still works great. I've never had any problems with the ventilation. I run it off 1 pound clinders and it lasts for about 10 hours on medium heat. I think it's a good choice for shanties, stands, and blinds.
mcgooo	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 09:11:40 01/15/2002 I have a mr buddy and it works great.One word of caution,my daughter got two close and it burned(melted) a whole in her jacket and snow pants.Always vent your hut a little when using a portable heater.
Mcgoo	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 09:18:16 01/15/2002 I purchased a mr.buddy from cabelas.Works great but a word of caution.My daughter got to close and it burned(melted)a whole in her jacket and snow pants.Always vent your hut little every now and then when using a portable heater.
Mcgoo	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 09:22:31 01/15/2002 I purchased a mr.buddy from cabelas.Works great but a word of caution.My daughter got to close and it burned(melted)a hole in her jacket and snow pants.Always vent your hut a little every now and then when using a portable heater.
Lex	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 09:35:48 01/16/2002 Mr buddy heaters are not vent free..they need a vent, and the tighter your place the more conscentrated the fumes. Remember, Carbon Monoxide is colorless and orderless and builds up over time. A direct vent heater is the best for permanent fish houses, with a small vent free second best. I like the Eskabe Vent free heater, personally.
D Burke	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 01:53:50 01/21/2002 I use a propane heater similer to what the phone co uses up here in northern Ont.Heats up quick and you can cook on it! it does have an open flame (carbon monoxide)but I put a closable vent at the top of my hut and along with the 3 holes for fishing and running to check the lines outside (we are aloud 2 lineds per person)the hut I feel the air in the hut is being exchanged frequintly enough
cal	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 20:47:50 01/21/2002 peavey mart has a coleman 1lb bottle heater that sells for 44.00 ( on sale). it is an electronic ignition and runs for about 13 hours per bottle.i have a portable shanty and have a ventilation hole in the top part of the wall.each bottle runs for about 3 to 4.00 but i have gotten them on sale for 2.00. this unit comes with a large handle and about a 1 foot round base which makes it very portable and light.i have found that it will keep the shack (40inch wide by 6 ft long by 6ft high)very comfortable.if you are worried about ventilation leave a portion of the shack close to a hole uncovered by snow and if there is any wind the draft will find the hold and keep ventilation running. too many poeple try for airtight conditions.i find i am always opening the door to see who is catching what and who is lying about a big one ...
todd	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 10:47:55 01/24/2002 I use a latern to heat my shack. Enough heat to stay warm and light when you need it.
shawn	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 19:13:09 02/10/2002 The Mr. Buddy heater is a real nice heater, only weighs 7lbs and throws enough heat for a 250sqft. area, you can place the unit anywhere, even against the cloth cover on your portables because the back of it never gets hot. It also has its own igniter button so you dont need matches or lighters. I would definately recommend this heater to anyone.
beyer	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 20:20:19 02/13/2002 I was wondering where I could find a wood burning stove for a 8x8 shack i am planning on building. Also if anyone has a layout for an 8x8 shack that would be nice too.
shawn	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 19:10:25 02/14/2002 Beyer, I have seen woodburning stoves in the Northern tool catalog and also in cabelas master catalog. Hope this helps you, Shawn
Jon	Re: heater for shanty (Currently 0 replies) Posted At 13:32:08 03/05/2002 I have used a propane stove in my shacks for 10 years now, and the heaters I use have got to be the safest I know of. When I go to spend 1-4 days at the Allagash "Condo" the last thing I am gonna bet my life on is watching a candle to see if there is enough air to breath, I am real surprized there is so many people out there trusting their and their friends lives to a candle,I'm surprized we haven't lost a bunch of them. The stoves I use are 16,000 btu direct vent propane stoves equipped with a thermo coupler incase the flame goes out, they cost $100. plus shipping. They are very cost efficiant to operate and to my knowledge and experiance are quite bullet proof. email me if you have any questions I'll be glad to help you. I just would like everyone to be safe and have fun doing it. LET THE FLAGS FLY!!!