I have fished early season Wisconsin, Colorado, Alaska, Minnesota and Upper Michigan Pike, and like many other states, the one thing that always produced numbers was fishing them in the shallows. I have iced early season pike in extremely shallow water, (2-4 ft. of water.) Seems SOMETIMES, (note I did not say all the time!!), thier transition to the deeper water didn't occur until in or around early January. It couldn't hurt placing a couple tip-ups in the shallows and visually setting your bait 1 ft. above the weed line. One thing you must do is fill your hole in with snow!!! or at least a piece of cardboard etc... keeping the light down to a minimum. Bob's tip on using a "flicker blade" dosen't hurt either! Anyhow, 8 ft. "may" be to deep? Try shallowing up. -Barleydog