Canadian ice fishers get no break

[Murf]

I just got a copy of the mid winter Ice fishing publication by f and w outdoors.  I couldn't help but notice that the American retail price was no longer displayed on the cover with the Canadian price.  Yet, the early winter edition stated both prices.  Could it be that it is $2.00 more even though both currencies are practically on par.  Even more puzzling is past copies of this magazine were only $1.00 more when our dollar was tanking against the greenback.  To add to the frustration Canadians who want to go to the U.S. to buy snowmobiles, 4x4's and even snowmobile parts are told by American dealers they are not allowed to sell to Canadians.  However, when our dollar was next to nothing Canadian dealers of these same companies were more than happy to sell to visitors from the U.S.  With the amount of ice anglers in Canada you would think that we would get some respect.     

[BUCKSKI]

I just got a copy of the mid winter Ice fishing publication by f and w outdoors.  I couldn't help but notice that the American retail price was no longer displayed on the cover with the Canadian price.  Yet, the early winter edition stated both prices.  Could it be that it is $2.00 more even though both currencies are practically on par.  Even more puzzling is past copies of this magazine were only $1.00 more when our dollar was tanking against the greenback.  To add to the frustration Canadians who want to go to the U.S. to buy snowmobiles, 4x4's and even snowmobile parts are told by American dealers they are not allowed to sell to Canadians.  However, when our dollar was next to nothing Canadian dealers of these same companies were more than happy to sell to visitors from the U.S.  With the amount of ice anglers in Canada you would think that we would get some respect.     

Murf I feel you plight, the magitones also feel the same way!

[dkfry]

You guys have been getting ripped off for many many years. I can buy stuff here in the states for half what you have to pay. I've read on other forums that Canadians have to pay $11,000 more for a new F-350 SD than here in the states, its not right. The prices affect me as well because I come up to Ontario several  weeks a year for a fishing vacation. Hope you guys can get prices down to normal levels.

[IceholeFisherman]

I dont know how much customs fees have to do with it. In my opinion, customs fees are nothing more then "bribing the border guard" to let products go back and forth. I bought a industrial sewing machine for 500.00 from Raphael Sewing Machines in  Montreal and had to pay over 130.00 US dollars to customs to get it across the border. Criminal is the only word I can think of for it.

[hard_water]

come on murf you guys brew some of the best beers, what do you call it when they mix beer and tomatoe juice? i got a cousin up there that is all he drinks. nasty blaaack.

                                                                          water

[bucketmouth]

A buddy is shopping quads and the Suzuki he's looking at can be found in NY for $4900, here in Ontario it's $8900... how's that for an injustice?? 

[primepin65]

come on murf you guys brew some of the best beers, what do you call it when they mix beer and tomatoe juice? i got a cousin up there that is all he drinks. nasty blaaack.

                                                                          water

are you talking about Clamato?

[*Wiggler*]

Clamato and beer I'm assuming. My uncle drinks it.
Clamato is much better in caesars. 

Clamato Beer

[Lobes]

I sure wish there was some sort of way the politicians could do something to fix this difference in exchanges between the US and Canada. Americans as a whole don't normally think of Canada as a foriegn country but rather a good neighbor. I still think that anyone that thinks they want to be a politician of any country should have their own country to live in so they can just kill each other off.

                                             
NBG

[fish_finder]

 Same goes for ammo,i know ppl that pay about $8-10 a box of steel shot in the US i pay 15 for the same shells here

[Woodsman]

It boils down to Corporate Greed.
 There are reasons for some minor differences in prices but not the vast differences we get shafted with.
 Different Canadian equipment requirements for some vehicles does add some to the cost of vehicles. By stopping Canadians from buying vehicles in the US they protect the larger Corporate profits north of the boarder.
 Shipping costs may add a little to American magazines bought in Canada. By not showing both prices they feel the can hide how much they are shafting us.
 Also Canadian retailers do pay higher prices for their stock at times due to a smaller buying power compared to their US counter parts.
 So back to my second line:There are reasons for some minor differences in prices but not the vast differences we get shafted with.

Best Wishes: Rick

[hard_water]

thats it clamato oh my god that stuff is nasty.


                       water

[bentrod]

Murf,

Our local Lund dealer just sold an expensive boat package to a man from Toronto, we will take your Canadian money here in W. Michigan.
Now, on the other hand, years ago when I motorcycled across Canada and our dollar was weak, anything we bought WAS adjusted. And then a few years later when our dollar was strong, no Canadian wanted to make an adjustment.

[Woodsman]

Murf,
 years ago when I motorcycled across Canada and our dollar was weak, anything we bought WAS adjusted. And then a few years later when our dollar was strong, no Canadian wanted to make an adjustment.

bentrod: I have to disagree with this general statement. For many years the American dollar was much higher than the Canadian dollar & almost all retailers here offered an exchange rate. These exchanges were not generally quite the official rate but generally close.
 Also when the Canadian dollar was lower adjustments were also made against the Canadian dollar in the US. When the recent changes happened not all US retailers quickly jumped into adjustments to benefit those using the Canadian dollar.
Theres two sides to every coin.

Best Wishes: Rick

[Trigger]

come on murf you guys brew some of the best beers, what do you call it when they mix beer and tomatoe juice? i got a cousin up there that is all he drinks. nasty blaaack.

                                                                          water

I think your cousin is drinking what they call a RedEye which is Beer and clam mixed in a glass,mug. Well thats what they call them in my parts of the country

[IceholeFisherman]

And don't forget that the tax rate in Canada is much, much, higher then the US. Guess they got to pay
for their national health care somehow. Thats just what hilliary wants for the US because she knows what is
best for you and your family.

[Murf]

Usually, beer and clamato juice is usually called an "ugly"

[Icepuppy]

I bought a clam guide in Michigan at Bass Pro last year for almost $150.00 less that it would cost me in Toronto at Bass Pro.  Even with the current exchange and duty at the border.  It should also be noted that US customs were deliberately holding up Canadian shoppers and generally causing problems when the Canadian dollar was over the USD.  Funny how that never happened when our dollar was lower.  Magazine prices have always pissed me off, a subscription for In-Fisherman in the US is $30 for 16 issues, Canadian is $56 for 16 issues, what the!?!  How much more does it cost in postage from Detroit to Toronto???  I call BS, shame on in-fisherman!   

[bentrod]

bentrod: I have to disagree with this general statement. For many years the American dollar was much higher than the Canadian dollar & almost all retailers here offered an exchange rate. These exchanges were not generally quite the official rate but generally close.
 Also when the Canadian dollar was lower adjustments were also made against the Canadian dollar in the US. When the recent changes happened not all US retailers quickly jumped into adjustments to benefit those using the Canadian dollar.
Theres two sides to every coin.

Best Wishes: Rick

Rick,
It has a lot to do with the greed of the individual merchant on both sides, I never could figure out the high cost of US magazines in Canada. I am quite sure someone in  India or France could buy the same mag. for the same as or cheaper than a Canadian. I think your problems may be with your government, health care and taxes. We have a lot of working poor here with no health care.

[bentrod]

I bought a clam guide in Michigan at Bass Pro last year for almost $150.00 less that it would cost me in Toronto at Bass Pro.  Even with the current exchange and duty at the border.  It should also be noted that US customs were deliberately holding up Canadian shoppers and generally causing problems when the Canadian dollar was over the USD.  Funny how that never happened when our dollar was lower. 

I should think US Customs would be happy as a lark to see US goods heading north, regardless of the exchange rate. I think 911 has more to do with whats going on at the border than goods.

[rich81]

come on murf you guys brew some of the best beers, what do you call it when they mix beer and tomatoe juice? i got a cousin up there that is all he drinks. nasty blaaack.

                                                                          water

Unibroue excellent beer. like the raftman and all others. now if i could just figure out what the heck that Caribou juice is. trying to get a recipe can someone help it made me feel warm and fuzzy at the quebec winterfet 

[Walltrout]

I should think US Customs would be happy as a lark to see US goods heading north, regardless of the exchange rate. I think 911 has more to do with whats going on at the border than goods.

When you go into Canada, you have to pass through Canadian customs not US customs.  Canadian customs has an interest in what enters their country just as US customs tries to protect the US,

[Icepuppy]

I should think US Customs would be happy as a lark to see US goods heading north, regardless of the exchange rate. I think 911 has more to do with whats going on at the border than goods.

Nothing to do with 911, here's one article, there were dozens a month ago.  I think with all the BS Canadians will be less likely to shop across the border, it's getting a bad name with the lack of really good deals, delays and border harassment.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourview/2007/11/delayed_rebuked_for_crossborde.html

[bentrod]

Icepuppy,

After reading that article, it looks like the hold up was caused on the Canadian side with 3,000 people crossing at one time.

Our world is changing, and not for the better. I know of many motorcyclist, fishermen and hunters who will not go back to Canada because the experience has not been a good one.

I am not bashing Canada, I am a first generation American of Canadian decent. I would really like to spend a lot of time up there, but I think I will just stay home. I have seen much of the world and I am happy right here in Michigan. I might go south in the winter, but that doesn't turn me on either, must be getting old

What we need here is more ice.

[Icepuppy]

Bentrod, I've had pretty good experiences south of the border but things happen. Sorry to hear yours weren't better, I think politics get in the way a lot of times too.