Laker problem

[T-Bore]

I have just recently went out for Lakers with great success. However, i have noticed that for the most part they spit the hook around 10 feet. I was using stingers and doing multiple hook sets while fighting the fish. The only Lakers I caught had the stingers completely in their mouths. I must of lost 12 lakers. Is there anything I am doing wrong or is the fact that the lakers have really tough jaws? Also i have noticed on my VPG the weirest behavior. When i was fishing in 20 feet of water the lakers would not take but when I drop my jig another 10 feet and come to a sudden stop they would always slam it. So my question is " Is that the norm for lakers to chase my jig around?" I am heading out there 2morrow again. So I hope y'all can give some pointers to boost my ratio of landing more fish to fish lost. Thanks-T-Bore

[pieman1998]

what size hook are you using . we use a 14# terble hook

[PowerBaitron]

Why are quickstrike rigs way too much? If fish are biting lightly it would seem almost necessary. I was fishing with TBORE and the problem was that the smaller lakers have really tough mouths and not very much fat around lips. It was necessary to set hooks deep and I doubt we ripped any mouths open. We were loosing fish due to hooks not getting set deep enough so I'm thinking smaller and longer trebles will pimp it up.

Beer for my horses and trout for my hoes.

[TJC]

I use small trebles and usually do good with hooks ups with them, I was losing lakers using single hooks, they were spitting the hooks close to the hole, Also I do better with the lakers no swallowing the treble and getting gut hooked as much. Good luck

[Rat-Man]

Try single hooks, circle hooks.

[BottomDweller]

you gotta be careful - the multiple hooksets are more for stretchy monofiliment line at deep levels of water.  i would guess that what is happening is you did actually hook the trout through the thin skin of the fore-jaw, and those multiple hooksets are just popping the hook right through it...  i use heavy fluorocarbon line that doesn't hardly stretch, and also gamakatsu hooks that are heavy enough to pull most anythhing up and super sharp so i know that when i set the hook, it's going to pierce whatever part of the laker it's touching - trout jaws may be relatively strong, but they ain't steel.

[PowerBaitron]

He said they slammed and made no mention to smashing it so neither. The trout I was catching were not hammering the hooks and were taking it and running with bait but could always get off. What do you guys consider to be a big fish anyways? The ones I'm calling small are like 7-9 pounders and we have pics to post soon. I'm interested where and how you only catch big fish?

[PowerBaitron]

Slammed, Smashed whats the difference?
YOU TELL ME PLEASE.
Taking the bait and runing? On A TIP UP? DROPING IT ? BECAUSE YOU HAD 2 TREBLES IN YOUR BAIT WHEN IT IS NOT NECESSARY !Listen I am not a preacher, but trout are trout, they can be finecky, super agressive and line shy all in one day thats the beauty of nailing a monster but my experience tells me (and I have out a good # of 7-9 pounders in my hand) that tip ups REQUIRE precision presentation techniques, this means light mine, little weight, and definately NO trebles hanging about. (These fish over 30 inchin and uppward are over 20+ years old do you honestly think that they haven't seen some fishing tackle before and don't remember it ?) You want big Lakers and can't find them ? Start looking at your presentation tactics. These fish are A LOT smarter than you give them credit, and they will LAUGH at quick strike rigs.

Not a preacher but I bet you're a bit unstable due to those caps locks. Calm down buddy.

[T-Bore]

At no time did I say that i was using a quick strike rigs. Powerbaiton, did you use a quickstrike rigs at all?  So where you got that impression from I don't know. All I was using was a Bionic Bucktail jig made by Northland Tackle with a built in stinger tipped with a minnow on 12 pound test Vanish. And the lake we fish may see an average of a 100 if not less anglers a year. So I would think that the Lakers are not that smart at all in this particular lake. 

[GAMBELL]

I just started jigging lakers.  I have found they do chase your jig around.  That is fun to watch.  I use fire line as my main line and then a florocarbon leader.  You get better hook sets with the superlines.  I also use a hook file.  Hooks right out of the package need some sharpening.  I like my hooks super sharp.  I also use a stinger hook on my plastics.  I use a diachi 1530 on 20 lb. floro tied to the main hook on my jig.  I put the hook in the tail of my plastics so it is barley exposed.  One other thing I found when using plastics is hook placement in the plastics.   I found with too much hook exposed, I lost more fish.  I put the jig head in the plastic so the hook is sticking out of the jig 1/8" or 3/16".  With the bigger fish, this will not matter.  Good luck.

[peterpike]

i like to use single hooks on hardwater and on the lake durinr the summer for trout and salmon just bc u get a better set with a single and dont have the  chance of the fish pulling the treble out. trout have soft mouths and any movement of a treble can lead to the fish getting off. have lost less fish since ive moved to singles a couple years ago.