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Offline MikeOGNR

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Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« on: Feb 02, 2023, 03:06 PM »
For those of you who trap bait during the winter. I myself have always used traps with short sets in beaver ponds. Wondering if using a jig rod with small fly hook and bit of worm using my flasher to locate schools would be more effective. Anyone ever tried this mostly looking to catch medium to large shiners under 5 in.

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #1 on: Feb 02, 2023, 03:24 PM »
I catch smelt when they show up on the graft if I don’t use them for bait I eat them.. ;)
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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #2 on: Feb 02, 2023, 03:30 PM »
Does it work? Yes. Is it feasible, hardly ever.

Like Dom said I catch smelt when they show but then you lose a line in the water and when it’s a 2 trapper that really sucks.

If you were looking to target huge Goldens then yeah but it still may take you a few hours. I’d rather use those hours to fish than fish for bait. I’ll pay someone to do that so I can catch what matters.

100% it will work though and if that’s what pops your rocks off then have at it.

I’ve posted this before but guys don’t wanna read the novels of info and tricks we post to make them succeed they just want a spot and access and to then fail. I can show you threads enough so I or Joe or Keith etc started that could turn anyone into a stud ice fisherman but focus is only on who I call lazy and where any of us were and how we parked lol

Dump some flake fish food in the hole as it makes it way down it creates a frenzy. Good luck
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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #3 on: Feb 02, 2023, 03:41 PM »
You count your years by the Winters.

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #4 on: Feb 02, 2023, 03:41 PM »
I've caught large smelts and a couple jumbo shiners when fishing for perch, but that's it. If you're already trapping, the amount of bait per minute of time investment on that is going to exponentially outweigh jigging for them.

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #5 on: Feb 02, 2023, 03:44 PM »
It takes a while to find the big goldies in the crowd and even then they're competing with every sunfish and yellow in the neighborhood... Probably took an hour to come up with 6 of these, and they all got crushed by greedy 3 pound largemouth that I could have got with store bought mediums... My opinion is buy it or trap it and save the rod for the real fish...



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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #6 on: Feb 02, 2023, 03:53 PM »
My brother does well using bread on a rod and reel for jumbo shiners, but this is in the spring and summer.

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #7 on: Feb 02, 2023, 04:26 PM »
Does it work? Yes. Is it feasible, hardly ever.

Like Dom said I catch smelt when they show but then you lose a line in the water and when it’s a 2 trapper that really sucks.

If you were looking to target huge Goldens then yeah but it still may take you a few hours. I’d rather use those hours to fish than fish for bait. I’ll pay someone to do that so I can catch what matters.

100% it will work though and if that’s what pops your rocks off then have at it.

I’ve posted this before but guys don’t wanna read the novels of info and tricks we post to make them succeed they just want a spot and access and to then fail. I can show you threads enough so I or Joe or Keith etc started that could turn anyone into a stud ice fisherman but focus is only on who I call lazy and where any of us were and how we parked lol

Dump some flake fish food in the hole as it makes it way down it creates a frenzy. Good luck


I did do some research found a thread called trapping bait in the Maine section very good info some stuff I already new other tips were good. Such as dog food vs white bread. I get what you mean though people our lazy there’s millions of threads on here. Just gotta type a keyword and look. More or less was just seeing if anyone had greater success versus trapping.

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #8 on: Feb 02, 2023, 04:31 PM »

I did do some research found a thread called trapping bait in the Maine section very good info some stuff I already new other tips were good. Such as dog food vs white bread. I get what you mean though people our lazy there’s millions of threads on here. Just gotta type a keyword and look. More or less was just seeing if anyone had greater success versus trapping.

Spot on buddy, Litterally type your topic in the search as a question and bangggg lol.

That wasn’t targeted at you fyi.
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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #9 on: Feb 02, 2023, 05:09 PM »
Spot on buddy, Litterally type your topic in the search as a question and bangggg lol.

That wasn’t targeted at you fyi.

Ohh no I didn’t think that I get what you mean honestly you say it how it is and people on here get offended by that. It used to happen to me with laker fishing I’d explain my tactics even goes as far as showing pictures as to what the structure I look for in a lake on Navionics looked like. And then I’d just get blown up with questions or the hey we should go out sometime like ohh sure so what I can show you a spot a week later you bring your buddies there and the place gets blown up like sure sounds like a great time. People don’t understand the time and effort that goes into finding a spot locating fish figuring the fish out. It’s called fishing not catching this world is so based on instant gratification that they’ll look for any way to achieve that in the laziest fashion. As to that I take my hat off to you sir keep giving these people that our looking for hand outs a hard time maybe they’ll learn…. Or maybe they won’t

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 02, 2023, 05:12 PM »
Preeshiate ya!
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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #11 on: Feb 02, 2023, 05:15 PM »
That's how sleepless Flamingos roll ya know!
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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #12 on: Feb 02, 2023, 05:17 PM »
. People don’t understand the time and effort that goes into finding a spot locating fish figuring the fish out. It’s called fishing not catching this world is so based on instant gratification that they’ll look for any way to achieve that in the laziest fashion.
^^ right on . This is the best part, figuring it all out. "Hunting" the fish. And then protecting it like your first born
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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #13 on: Feb 02, 2023, 05:19 PM »
That's how sleepless Flamingos roll ya know!



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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #14 on: Feb 02, 2023, 05:56 PM »
How's the ice they all ask? "I’ll tell you what, you can get a good look at a t-bone by sticking your head up a bull’s butt, but I’d rather take the butcher’s word for it."

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #15 on: Feb 02, 2023, 06:08 PM »
They have flamingos in Michigan?

That’s my opinion! Troll!
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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #16 on: Feb 02, 2023, 06:25 PM »
^^ right on . This is the best part, figuring it all out. "Hunting" the fish. And then protecting it like your first born

It’s true it’s like deer hunting the whole point is to go out and Chase that big buck I know so many so called “great deer hunters” who will go out drop pile of corn and wait what’s the fun it that? I find the journey of a still hunt is half the fun you never know what’s over that next knoll. Same goes for fishing half the fun is finding that spot on the spot weather it be a steep point with a giant boulder at the end that holds a giant it’s trial and error but that’s what makes it half the fun

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #17 on: Feb 02, 2023, 06:28 PM »
For those of you who trap bait during the winter. I myself have always used traps with short sets in beaver ponds. Wondering if using a jig rod with small fly hook and bit of worm using my flasher to locate schools would be more effective. Anyone ever tried this mostly looking to catch medium to large shiners under 5 in.

It's not worth it to try + catch medium-large shiners (<5") on a jig rod. The mouth on a medium shiner is pretty darn small. You're much better off trapping them (or buying them).

That said, I have caught quite a few large goldens jigging by accident.  They are a pain to hook, but once hooked they actually give a pretty good fight for their size, lol....like a mini tarpon.

The serious pike guys (that don't like to talk about pike fishing on the interwebs) will catch large goldens in the fall on hook + line, then keep them in a large bait tank or freeze them for winter.

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #18 on: Feb 02, 2023, 06:56 PM »
It's not worth it to try + catch medium-large shiners (<5") on a jig rod. The mouth on a medium shiner is pretty darn small. You're much better off trapping them (or buying them).

That said, I have caught quite a few large goldens jigging by accident.  They are a pain to hook, but once hooked they actually give a pretty good fight for their size, lol....like a mini tarpon.

The serious pike guys (that don't like to talk about pike fishing on the interwebs) will catch large goldens in the fall on hook + line, then keep them in a large bait tank or freeze them for winter.

I used to catch some giants in the summer great bass bait for trophy hunting keeping them a live for long periods was the hard part there weird they’ll be in a spot one day then gone the next

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #19 on: Feb 02, 2023, 07:05 PM »
Ironically,  I just got in from running bait traps before the big chill and during the full moon cycle,2 were in sluiceways out of beaver ponds , neither produced, a tributary of the merrimack  was stuffed,  50,maybe 60, last one was in a pet pond that has red fins, here you drop the trap and have to grapple it or it gets stolen, I got  a bakers dozen from that one..my go to bait is oatmeal balls made with grape soda, it's the same recipe I used in my carping days.

I have 3 different  retaining methods, one is a koi.pond with a wire keeper,  I can keep a few hundred there, a pond heater keeps my access open,I have a 55 gallon drum. Buried in the garden to take advantage of natural insulation, I keep suckers and large bait in here, to change water, I stick a garden hose in and let it overflow, a PITA this time of year, but it works,my working tank is 35 gallon insulated trash can  a 600gph penn plax canister filter, filters, pumps water through the chiller(1/4 hp)  and circulates to.keep the baits oriented in the current,  I don't  feed at 4o degrees their metabolism is so slow, they will die via predation first!
Water changes are done twice a week, i.have a  pump to drain the tank and potable water piped to it,small changes are better than 1 big one.
As for hook and line goldens, it is plausible, but usually not practical,it also is time consuming, if I want quantities of large bait, I trap suckers, BTW, for pike, if rigged correctly. A golden is Just as good dead as alive, my biggest pike21lbs)came on a dead golden.





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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #20 on: Feb 02, 2023, 07:10 PM »
Phenomenal input as always Joe
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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #21 on: Feb 02, 2023, 08:28 PM »
Ironically,  I just got in from running bait traps before the big chill and during the full moon cycle,2 were in sluiceways out of beaver ponds , neither produced, a tributary of the merrimack  was stuffed,  50,maybe 60, last one was in a pet pond that has red fins, here you drop the trap and have to grapple it or it gets stolen, I got  a bakers dozen from that one..my go to bait is oatmeal balls made with grape soda, it's the same recipe I used in my carping days.

I have 3 different  retaining methods, one is a koi.pond with a wire keeper,  I can keep a few hundred there, a pond heater keeps my access open,I have a 55 gallon drum. Buried in the garden to take advantage of natural insulation, I keep suckers and large bait in here, to change water, I stick a garden hose in and let it overflow, a PITA this time of year, but it works,my working tank is 35 gallon insulated trash can  a 600gph penn plax canister filter, filters, pumps water through the chiller(1/4 hp)  and circulates to.keep the baits oriented in the current,  I don't  feed at 4o degrees their metabolism is so slow, they will die via predation first!
Water changes are done twice a week, i.have a  pump to drain the tank and potable water piped to it,small changes are better than 1 big one.
As for hook and line goldens, it is plausible, but usually not practical,it also is time consuming, if I want quantities of large bait, I trap suckers, BTW, for pike, if rigged correctly. A golden is Just as good dead as alive, my biggest pike21lbs)came on a dead golden.







I’ve noticed I have better luck with suspended vs bottoming sitting traps what’s your input on this? Also 2 hr soaks Max of 6-7 if time doesn’t allow me to get there in 2 is most productive.  Also found beaver ponds with cattails if you set just right outside then suspended usually can pull 3 dozen or so in a soak

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #22 on: Feb 03, 2023, 03:06 AM »
I agree with Jigmaster as well on not trying to catch 5" shiners on hook and line. Mouths are too small. Hook and line is better for 8" + bait fish.
Try making your own traps to catch 5"-6" baits.





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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #23 on: Feb 03, 2023, 05:16 AM »
Our local swamp has browns rainbow brookies and happens to be loaded with smelt and Golden's s 4 traps get set to catch trout,  jig a Hali on other to lines average winter around 1200 smelt and 300 large Golden's. Smelt are primarily for eating but some will get turned into large fish and as for Golden's those are for March cusk

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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #24 on: Feb 03, 2023, 06:05 AM »

I’ve noticed I have better luck with suspended vs bottoming sitting traps what’s your input on this? Also 2 hr soaks Max of 6-7 if time doesn’t allow me to get there in 2 is most productive.  Also found beaver ponds with cattails if you set just right outside then suspended usually can pull 3 dozen or so in a soak

It depends on how muddy the bottom is, bottom is fine for gravel bottoms, but muddy bottom calls for suspension  most  of these places are only 4 or 5 feet deep, its primarily the same water, but those little boogers are feeding on nymphs and larvae, on the bottom.
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Re: Catching bait with jig rod through ice?
« Reply #25 on: Feb 03, 2023, 07:36 AM »
Great info Joe, hopefully those little fellas will be hook bound soon...
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