Seaguar for spinning reels

[Seamonkey84]

Setting up a couple rods for lake trout this season, Line choice has been one of the biggest thing I’m trying to decide on. I have one reel spooled up with 14lb fireline (diameter of 6lb mono) and 10lb Seaguar red label for leader. Since I don’t usually fish from a shack, I’d like to put together another reel for really cold days with mostly fluoro, with fireline more as a backing for the long runs. I’m thinking about trying the Seaguar invizix, abrazix, and also considering Tatsu. Which of these lines work best in the cold? I hear invizix is bit more stretchy but is very spinning reel friendly. Abrazix is said to be almost as soft but without the stretch and more abrasion resistant. Tatsu seems like the best of both lines, being touted as their strongest and softest fluoro. Which, if any, would be suitable for spoonline on spinning reel.  could I get away with 10lb test, or still stick with 8lb like usually recommended when spooling with fluoro. I’m not talking about the little UL reels, I have a okuma sv25, and looking to get another in the same size range, ones that’ll hold at least 100yds of 6-8lb mono. Looking at the Pflueger monarch or maybe a presidential size 30 if I find ones on sale. Or any suggestions for inexpensive “ice” reels that I wouldn’t have to clean out and re-lube would also be appreciated.

[slipperybob]

The thing about fluorocarbon line is that they get more springy when the temperature drops. I am a Shimano fanboy so I tend to look that way.  My old fishing buddy was an Abu Garcia fanboy.   A distant relative is all about Diawa. 

[mvanhank222]

There is an Abrazix ice line it’s sold in 50 yard spools. For a spinning reel it’s hard to beat the value of a Shimano Sienna.

[Tye]

I love Seaguar Invisx for ice fishing. It has handled great for me, although I've only used 4lb for panfish. I've used 6 up to 20lb test in open water and it's been real nice as well. Toss up between Invisx and Abrazx for my favourite fluorocarbon.

I have only used the Shimano Sienna 500's and Pflueger Trions for ice fishing and they've both done a great job I can't complain.

[stinkyfingers]

I've used Seaguar leader material for years  Uni-Uni'd on to red PowerPro main line. Great leader material but spendy in those little leader spools. I've often wondered about using

fluoro line material instead of leader stock. Might have to pick up a spool of InvisX in 6# to try. Maybe some line wonk could speak to the difference in line vs leader resin   

chemistry and performance.

I've used small Okuma reels in past years since a guide turned me onto them. They're basically a Chinese knockoff of the Japanese Shimano and are not a bad value. Those

Shimano Siennas, as mentioned, are a very good value. But the Pflueger President is my go-to reel for ice fishing. Dang they're smooth. If anybody comes across a brother-in-law

deal on a size 30 President please send me a PM.

[Seamonkey84]

There is an Abrazix ice line it’s sold in 50 yard spools. For a spinning reel it’s hard to beat the value of a Shimano Sienna.

I know they do, but I don’t believe it is any different than regular abrazix on a smaller spool,and maybe smaller lb test. I’ll be fishing in over 100ft of water, and I don’t want to be limited to up to 150ft without going into the braid/fireline.

I love Seaguar Invisx for ice fishing. It has handled great for me, although I've only used 4lb for panfish. I've used 6 up to 20lb test in open water and it's been real nice as well. Toss up between Invisx and Abrazx for my favourite fluorocarbon.

I have only used the Shimano Sienna 500's and Pflueger Trions for ice fishing and they've both done a great job I can't complain.

I’ve used red label in 6lb and it hasn’t been an issue, but the 10lb line jumps off the spool.  I’m hoping that one of their other lines won’t do that in 10lb.

I've used Seaguar leader material for years  Uni-Uni'd on to red PowerPro main line. Great leader material but spendy in those little leader spools. I've often wondered about using

fluoro line material instead of leader stock. Might have to pick up a spool of InvisX in 6# to try. Maybe some line wonk could speak to the difference in line vs leader resin   

chemistry and performance.

I've used small Okuma reels in past years since a guide turned me onto them. They're basically a Chinese knockoff of the Japanese Shimano and are not a bad value. Those

Shimano Siennas, as mentioned, are a very good value. But the Pflueger President is my go-to reel for ice fishing. Dang they're smooth. If anybody comes across a brother-in-law

deal on a size 30 President please send me a PM.

The only time I’ve bought leader material was for pike due to a recommendation, otherwise I use their “main line” fluoro lines as leaders and even for fly fishing.
More recommendations on the Shimano. Ditto on any deals on the Pflueger.

[p1capt]

I also rarely fish inside a shelter, I use Seaguar Invisx on all my lake trout reels without any issues. 15 lb and spinning reels and 20 lb on baitcasters. I use the spinning for shallower depths and 20 for deeper water for less stretch. I have been experimenting with Seaguar Smackdown braid in cold conditions as they say it doesn't absorb water near as much as other braids. So far the jury is still out on it.

[Seamonkey84]

I also rarely fish inside a shelter, I use Seaguar Invisx on all my lake trout reels without any issues. 15 lb and spinning reels and 20 lb on baitcasters. I use the spinning for shallower depths and 20 for deeper water for less stretch. I have been experimenting with Seaguar Smackdown braid in cold conditions as they say it doesn't absorb water near as much as other braids. So far the jury is still out on it.

15lb?! If that doesn’t jump off a spinning reel or get too much coils I’ll give it a try in 10 maybe 12 lbs. the other option I’m starting to look at is rid-line duracast/SuperCast as I’ve read good reviews along with northlands braid, they say it sheds water due to the coating, or when it does ice it the ice breaks off instead of beading up and sliding down the line.

[p1capt]

I don’t usually let it completely free spool off. I use my index finger to keep it under control, but saying that, I’ve never had spring off either. Another factor is I have always had a 1/2 oz or heavier lure which would help hold the line tighter from being so springy. I don’t think I’d ever use it on a spinning reel I was casting.

[Seamonkey84]

Thank you, sounds like it’ll work for me then. I’ll look into getting a spool of 10-12lb then, that’s the weight I’d use for leaders anyway.

[Tye]

Sea monkey I've only used 4-8lb Seaguar Invisx on spinning reels. Anything heavier in Invisx and Abrazx was on casting reels.

[Seamonkey84]

Sea monkey I've only used 4-8lb Seaguar Invisx on spinning reels. Anything heavier in Invisx and Abrazx was on casting reels.

Yea, but since p1capt says he uses heavier, and the 10lb red label wasn’t too bad as long as I didn’t overspool and feathered the line as it came off the reel. I’m hopping that the invizix, being supposedly much softer, will do well enough in 10lb. The lightest lure/jig I’d likely be using is 3/8oz, more likely 1/2-3/4oz. I know the average lake trout being caught in the lake I’d be fishing is 23-28”, with the chance of a monster too as it’s a large lake. I’d feel a bit too under gunned with 8lb line, and I don’t want to play a fish to death.  10-12 is what I was going to be using as leaders anyway so I figured that would be my low end preference.

[Tye]

Red Label is softer than Invizx I'm pretty sure.

[Seamonkey84]

Red Label is softer than Invizx I'm pretty sure.

Red label is their cheapest line, it’s touted for better knot strength compared to competitors, but invizix is claimed to be the softest, Tatsu is their strongest and softest.