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My fishing partner is my son age 15, we sit about 2 feet apart from each other and I could not catch a fish and he was hammering them. I changed jigs and still could not even try to catch him. I had a fancy meat stick pole and he was using a $10 HT Ice blue. We both have the same line. Fishing deeper than we normally do at about 20' using a 19 deg transducer which I think made it harder for me to see the jig. We drill three holes and put transducer in the middle, makes it interesting but to cheap to buy another flasher.Had fun today but could not figure out what he was doing but it worked, I was pretty proud of him he has really caught on to the sport.