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Well guys here it is i am nnot no germ but i can tell ya the ice is what ice the bay is still wide open with a little shore ice just starting to form.but in the barrie marina there is a very inconsitant 2 to 4 inches with a warm flow in the one end very weird lookin ice i stay away from that all together but out from dock g there is some ok ice i have been out there with a number of people on the ice or on the docks for the most everyone is nailing the perch in there and a few good 10 inchers pulled out of the marina so far and have seen too pike in there with my aqua view. I almost forgot open water is still in the marina to th west so be carefull. so there it is if anyone can add to that give er anyways tightlines and will keep you guys up to date best i can