Author Topic: Fish by the numbers (Read 2093 times)

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **on:** Mar 17, 2015, 12:48 PM »

How many fish and what size of fish do you think are in a given body of water?

In a 500 acre lake would you expect 1000 bass and 1 over 8 lbs?

In a mile stretch of river would you expect 5 Walleye and 1 over 20 inches?

In Pymatuning for instance, do you think there is a 50 lb cat fish?

This stuff is tuff to make a call on and even harder to prove, but I thought it might be fun to see what people think...

Is there a Crappy so big out there it can't fit in your bucket?

clayboy · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 17, 2015, 01:48 PM »

type of bucket? 50lb cat yes. just have to float the river to catch the bigger fish.

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 17, 2015, 03:17 PM »

Think there is a 75 lb cat fish in PA?

5 gallon bucket - and the crappy is to broad that he can't fit in with out bending him

capt.crappie · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 17, 2015, 06:56 PM »

Quote from: GreenFinnyBlinny on Mar 17, 2015, 03:17 PM

Think there is a 75 lb cat fish in PA?

5 gallon bucket - and the crappy is to broad that he can't fit in with out bending him

Crappie Yes. Pick up the latest edition of PA Outdoor news. 19 1/2" 3 lbs 10 oz. slab front page news. I can only imagine how many more guys will be at the big "O" next year $:-\$

4seasonfishrman · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 17, 2015, 09:00 PM »

There are a few oddball fish in every lake. 50lb cat in Pymatuning, I wouldn't doubt it.

sparky · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 06:27 AM »

I beleive that a 50# cat is out of the question. To much pressure. I would equate a 50# cat to a 3 # blue gill. Just isn't going to happen.

clayboy · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 08:25 AM »

i have got a 52 inch musky from pyme and countless eyes over 26 inches recently. I get 20lb cats and i dont target them either. most of the big fish get taken out but I take a pic and set them on their way. And for crappies I had one that took the whole bottom of the bucket and was bent. I just wonder about the perch there?

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 08:27 AM »

I think a 3# blue gill could exist.

Any chance there is a 30 inch Small Mouth in PA?

Basspunker182 · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 08:32 AM »

Quote from: GreenFinnyBlinny on Mar 18, 2015, 08:27 AM

I think a 3# blue gill could exist.

Any chance there is a 30 inch Small Mouth in PA?

3 # bluegill seems a bit much. Maybe 2 #er somewhere in PA.

30 inch smallie? IMO not a chance

clayboy · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 08:41 AM »

30 inch smallie no chance. 3lb gill not in public waters

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 12:16 PM »

What's bigger

Biggest Cat Fish or Biggest Carp

Biggest Sucker or Biggest Rainbow Trout

Biggest Perch or Biggest Rock Bass

Gaffmaster1 · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 18, 2015, 06:57 PM »

Re: Fish by the numbers
« Reply #5 on: Today at 05:27 AM »
Quotef
I beleive that a 50# cat is out of the question. To much pressure. I would equate a 50# cat to a 3 # blue gill. Just isn't going to happen.

. First I would think that there are a lot of fish that may be larger in size than all of these discussions. Think about how much waters there are in the State of PA. A lot of waterways are not accessable to the public for one reason or another.
I Live in SE PA and have several pictures of catties from our local waters into the 40lb range. I also know of at least 2 50lb cats caught in the waters in or around Montgomery County but have been asked to not put the pictures up on our Montgomery County Anglers web site or our Clubs Facebook page. Both fish were released so they are still maybe around. I would guess that big waters will have big fish. Between the Delaware, Schuykill, Susky and other big waters of western PA there are some BIG fish. The big crappie that was caught this year was from a waterway with "restricted access". I doubt it would have been caught if the place did not allow ice fishing and access to the better fishing areas on that body of water. Lots of quarries in PA that are off limits for fishing.
Just my opinion on big fish in the Keystone State. Lets all hope that there are bigger fish and that one day we may be lucky enough to drop a line on that lunker!

Gaffmaster
Montgomery County Anglers
www.montgomerycountyanglers.info/
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clayboy · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 06:59 AM »

ohio river and the Allegany river hold some huge fish under fished I think

PaWhiskerWacker · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 07:11 AM »

I have two seasons, Ice season and catfish season. I travel all over western pa looking for those monster flatheads, and in my opinion there are cats up to 60lbs in Pa rivers. I have caught them ounces from the state record and one that we didn't weigh, that was 44.5" long and 34" girth, same length but 4" rounder than the current state record. I have devoted 25 years of my life to finding a 50# and they are there for sure. Pymie has some big cats but the Allegehny, ohio, mon, skuke, susky, delaware rivers are on fire for cats, and thats where I am looking for that true animal! Here is a vid of the flat I caught that was physically larger than the state record but my scale batteries were dead that night and there was no way I was keeping this fish to weigh it and having it possibly die. There are record fish out there even though there is more fishing pressure than ever.

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 09:07 AM »

I watched that video, that is an awesome fish! I agree the rivers in PA are the places your going to find those freakishly big fish.. some of it is so hard to get to, The Connoquenessing in Western PA has a few giant holes that you never see anyone fish, mainly because you would have to kayak through really ruff water or scale down near vertical walls, those are the kind of places I think you could find a Monster Cat fish.. Some big monster that's about 20 years old filling up on creek chubs day after day.. and when the occasional bass fisherman does hook him, he breaks off with ease

clayboy · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 09:29 AM »

beaver river very unfished with some deeper holes hold huge very old fish. just hard to get to alot of the river water unless you explore and canoe them.

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 11:03 AM »

I always wanted to try the Beaver River. Never know what you will catch out of there.

clayboy · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 11:31 AM »

biggins

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 01:23 PM »

Think Beaver River or Moraine has a bigger Bass living in it

clayboy · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 03:21 PM »

i dont think anyone fishes from west pittsgurgh down to beaver falls. lot of water and a lot of fish

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 19, 2015, 04:04 PM »

an added bonus is if you're in West Pittsburgh you can go to the burg bar and get some sleezer pleezers wings

Charman03 · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 22, 2015, 12:46 PM »

Quote from: capt.crappie on Mar 17, 2015, 06:56 PM

Crappie Yes. Pick up the latest edition of PA Outdoor news. 19 1/2" 3 lbs 10 oz. slab front page news. I can only imagine how many more guys will be at the big "O" next year $:-\$

I guarantee atleast one more lol

cabst119 · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 06:57 PM »

Any river known for walleyes has 50 per mile I bet, though they are all concentrated in certain water with good habitat

30" smallie no way Jose. I'd say Lake Erie holds a 26 or 27 incher tops

Definitely a 60# Musky lurking somewhere in PA. Probably a big lake where they aren't targeted much like Kinzua or Raystown

Have seen pictures of crappie over 20".

Lots of lakes have the potential to break the state record for perch, and I would venture that the state record will be broken again by an ice fisherman in the next 10 years.

smally hunter · « **Reply #23 on:** Mar 23, 2015, 09:15 PM »

I know someone that caught a 2lb 15oz perch out of erie this year . Biggest Iv ever seen . He just don't want the attention . Btw came from erie . Not his first that big either

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **Reply #24 on:** Mar 24, 2015, 09:45 AM »

Think their is a perch that's 20 inches? I would say no but man you never know....

cabst119 · « **Reply #25 on:** Mar 24, 2015, 05:05 PM »

No but I bet there are a few 18" in the big lake

GreenFinnyBlinny · « **Reply #26 on:** Mar 25, 2015, 08:09 AM »

I am going to fish for some pike in the spring, the ones we catch are pretty small... about 23-30 inches...

I have been using 80 lb braid as my leader and it works well, but I heard fluorocarbon is the way to go.. any suggestions on what pound test? I will be fishing with shiners and regular hooks about 5 ft - 10 ft off shore in a few feet of water

captain54 · « **Reply #27 on:** Mar 28, 2015, 05:47 PM »

I doubt if there's 50lb cat in Pymy,because I think they just have channels,not flat heads.As for 18-20 inch perch NO. I all the state record perch only 4 states recorded a perch of 16 inches.30 small no way, I could see a new musky,and flathead record. I believe there's 18-19 inch crappie and huge flats out of the river systems. As for eyes a lot of10-12 lb fish in Erie,but the Allegheny river might hold the big one.That upper stretch of the Beaver river is a small mouth Mecca.

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Author Topic: Fish by the numbers (Read 2093 times)