I know all about putting my time in I got few good trout ponds around here I've never fished them through the ice thou, my old man and I always do well if your ever out this way little pond , lout pond, long pond Plymouth are all good then the other side of the canal there's about 7 more. I'm going to stick close to home today I realy do appreciate you getting back to me I need a nice 10 lbs bass or 8-9 lb pickrel thank you thou and good luck if I had a better running vehicle I'd already be on the way.. realy good luck and be safe