Some guy's hate this place, I don't know why... I have had some great trips there, and a few crappy trips there also. No different than any other lakes I have fished in the past. All in all a great panfish lake, and a great bass lake.. Give it a try... I have also had some good days on the ice with the crappies there. Never tried it at night with the lanterns like you guys fish for them.. Just some food thought....