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Oh boy the state actually giving something back!! Let me guess that there will be a surcharge of 10 bucks for the extra 3 days
I did not see anything on the D.E.C website either.So I just put a call in to the bureau of fisheries, I will post when they call me back with an answer.
O.K here's the deal... Just got off the phone with Shawn Keeler from the bureau of fisheries. He said the change has been filed but has not been noticed by the state yet.It will go up for notice on 01/06/2010.He has already prepared a tentative press release for the 6Th and does not forsee any problems, although it is recommended to check the D.E.C website on the 6Th or 7Th before you tell all your fishing buddies their bait is good for 10 days.It sure would be nice change to get two weekends out of your bait.Wellsy
It is ironic that we would get excited about getting something back from the government that was already taken from us. It fits nice, neat and packaged into the Gov'ts plan to control the sheeple. Sad days are among us.
Conspiracy theorists unite....Look, VHS is nothing to sneeze at, and the track record of other strains and their lethality to fisheries has this pathogen classified as a "reportable disease" to the World Organization for Animal Health (WOAH), and also remember the Dept knew about the existence of VHS as early as 2005 (sheepshead die off in Lake Ontario) and did not react at all until 2006, when a musky die off happened in St. Lawrence. Once the Federal order came out, the state, considering the election year and the new governor (Number 9) coming in (expected at that time) some of the moves made were more CYA, and the actions taken, considering the millions and millions of our own dollars invested in our fisheries through stocking and habitat restoration, the DEC had to act to protect these investments, and the larger economics of fishing as a whole.Also, please remember that back when the emergency regs were put in place in November 2006, some fisheries managers in the DEC wanted to ban all baitfish use as the response (I believe coming from ADK region, but not 100% certain). And LE needed to assure something that was somewhat enforceable with the regs, too.But, as we learn more about VHS IVb, the better we should be able to adjust the regs to meet the actual conditions afield. Let's not all chuck the DEC and the State under the bus for this one, unless we wish to chuck them under the bus for the complete failure to protect our waterways from invasive organisms, of which VHS is certainly one of them.
I hear what your saying, but lets not pretend that our leaders always base decisions on who is the biggest contibutor to an issue(such as the burn ban). It is always easy to push new rules on the little guy and brag how they are tackling a problem. I'm not saying the State was wrong in this case, but what is being done about commercial ships on the St.Lawrence? They cause the most pollution and bring in more invasive organisms than all of us combined ever have or will. Sure, they have rules to abide by but who is going to challenge them. It is never talked about because there is no easy answer, but it is easy to pass along a new rule to a fisherman. I respect your fact based opinion but don't make a person that is frustrated with the State's thumb always pressing on him seem like an idiot. I thing we all get a bit tired of paying more for everything and losing the freedom to do the things we love without someone up our but!
Conspiracy theorists unite....Look, VHS is nothing to sneeze at, and the track record of other strains and their lethality to fisheries has this pathogen classified as a "reportable disease" to the World Organization for Animal Health (WOAH
And lets not forget about the FEAR MONGERS!
.......expect these measures to be properly adjusted as new information is learned, and that hasn't really happened, yet.But, with both, conspiracy theorists or crisis/ fear mongers, the best defense is to be well informed.
Agree with you Doc...just having some fun with you.
I do agree, the nonsense is troubling for certain, and is one reason I got involved. I got just as frustrated, especially after the BS and the changing of opening day of regular big game season, I was just a little late getting into the game to halt that crap. I also understand your frustration concerning the commercial vessels and their ballast water discharges. NYS FINALLY passed th ebill requiring all freighters entering and running the Great Lakes to have ballast tanks equipped with treatment systems to Chlorinate or use Bromine (would that be "brominate"?) the ballast waters, and all vessels have to be equipped with functioning treatment systems and ballast water has to be treated or no entry permitted, by Jan 1 2011, I do believe. I'll have to check on the date effective. Was passed earlier this year. And Paterson did sign it. This was a bill originally sponsored by Dick Smith (Lucky 7 Charters, Hamburg, now retired from Assembly) nearly 10 years ago! Wheels of government. Snail slow unless they can gin up a crisis.... shipping industry has lots of money, so the "crisis", which invasive species and their rate of introduction truly is a crisis, got suppressed, but, finally, something proper happened. I hope they enforce it...Not meaning to make you look like an idiot, either. However, the conspiracy theory thing does hurt our own ranks quite a bit. I think its worse amongt the hunting community. Partial blame for these does fall on the state, as they got lots of info that is available, but they make no effort to keep the stakeholders (a PC term for bill payers, I guess, or maybe human money trees) up to date.... Unless you actually dig or know someone on the inside, its tough to truly know what is happening. If you felt like I demeaned you, I apologize. Not the intent. Its just that oftentimes the "campfire tales" as I call 'em, grow legs really, really fast.And you're right, it is always easier to pass a new rule. And I agree with ya. I am currently in another little battle over the Habitat/ Access stamp. The guy who dreamed up this program (the voluntary $5.00 Stamp for habitat improvement and access) wants to make it mandatory becuase out of 1.5 million license buyers, only @ 10,000 of us actually buy one. I want to keep it mandatory, and there are number of reasons why this program sucks wind, but the solutions wil require a little elbow grease. When I told my colleague this, he admitted the mandatory action was the "easy thing" to do, as if exposing our ranks to another cost liability under dictation from Dracula's Castle in Albany-sylvania was somehow a good trade for getting a H/A fund that had some excitement to it.... I'm still battling on that one, but will do so from a little stronger position as I got on the Habitat/ Access state committee to do just that!What can anyone do? Just start by joining a federated conservation club, and then attend some meetings, maybe even go to a county federation meting once in a while and get informed on the goings on. You may not like everything happening, but at least you find out about stuff before a press relase announcing a change has happened. You get a chance to jump in when the process is going on and do something. Who knows what can happen, right?
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