heritage laker upgrades

[MBrown4]

well i just put my lakers back together after staining them but im really not comfortable with the spool shaft system they use. im wondering how i can secure these into the hole without making them permanent. anyone have any ideas?


thanks guys

[surflizard]

Are those are press fit M ?

[MBrown4]

if you mean do they just slip in tho hole, yes.just push em in and leave them

[surflizard]

I switched to Polars after losing a BIG Laker when the spool pulled out of the X frame tip up that I was using ! just my .02  other then theading the shaft and thru bolting it, I can't think of a non permenant fix, sorry buddy

[MBrown4]

my thinking is drill the hole through and getting a lag bolt that only has the end threaded but i havent been able to find one skinny enough.

[surflizard]

I fixed a couple of the old traps with 3" 10-24 machine screws.

[Maineiac2]

I fixed a couple of the old traps with 3" 10-24 machine screws.

That's how I upgraded mine used brass bolts and ss nylock nuts.Also put flat and lock washers on the cross bars.

[mike1]

I just ran a drill through them and bolted them right up..... 

[xjma]

carriage bolt down on the spool and use brass bolts for the cross pieces....huge upgrade!! 

[Powow]

my thinking is drill the hole through and getting a lag bolt that only has the end threaded but i havent been able to find one skinny enough.

Drill a 1/4" hole through the trap where the existing spool hole is.  U will also have to drill out the holes in the spool to 1/4".  Take a 4" 1/4-20 carridge bolt, push it through the trap and gently tap it in to seat it trying not to split the wood. You can also back drill the hole with a 3/8" bit to help prevent splitting.  Put a 1/4-20 nylon washer on, then a 1/4- 20 nylock nut and run it down tight . put a second 1/4-20 nylock nut on and run it down enough to make threads in the nylon.  Back it off, flip it and run it on backwards down toward the first nut. Add another 1/4-20 nylon washer then your spool and ajust the nut to where the spool trips the flag to your liking. Install 1 more nylon washer , and a small compression spring that will fit over the 1/4-20 carridge bolt . Last add a 1/4-20 nylock wing nut (very hard to find) and adjust till the spool spins free with little play.  If you want a little drag simply tighten your wing nut.  If you cant find the wing nut a regular nylock nut can be used.  just bring a 7/16" wrench with you if you plan to ajust the drag.  If you are not worried about having a drag system replace the 4 inch carridge bolt with a 3 1/2" carridge bolt and skip the spring.  try to get all stainless. 90%of this you should be able to get right at home depot.  As for the spring and nylock wingnut find a hardware store with a huge hardware selection.  I cant help you with the wind flags. thats a hole other issue

Good luck

Mike

[northernnyice]

some heavy duty glue, or, you already mentioned your best option, drill straight through, i would find good long carriage bolts, just my opinion.

[MBrown4]

bringing this back, i would like to make these into a flat trap style. anyone ever do this or anyone have advice?
thanks
MB4

[delta9]

Drill a 1/4" hole through the trap where the existing spool hole is.  U will also have to drill out the holes in the spool to 1/4".  Take a 4" 1/4-20 carridge bolt, push it through the trap and gently tap it in to seat it trying not to split the wood. You can also back drill the hole with a 3/8" bit to help prevent splitting.  Put a 1/4-20 nylon washer on, then a 1/4- 20 nylock nut and run it down tight . put a second 1/4-20 nylock nut on and run it down enough to make threads in the nylon.  Back it off, flip it and run it on backwards down toward the first nut. Add another 1/4-20 nylon washer then your spool and ajust the nut to where the spool trips the flag to your liking. Install 1 more nylon washer , and a small compression spring that will fit over the 1/4-20 carridge bolt . Last add a 1/4-20 nylock wing nut (very hard to find) and adjust till the spool spins free with little play.  If you want a little drag simply tighten your wing nut.  If you cant find the wing nut a regular nylock nut can be used.  just bring a 7/16" wrench with you if you plan to ajust the drag.  If you are not worried about having a drag system replace the 4 inch carridge bolt with a 3 1/2" carridge bolt and skip the spring.  try to get all stainless. 90%of this you should be able to get right at home depot.  As for the spring and nylock wingnut find a hardware store with a huge hardware selection.  I cant help you with the wind flags. thats a hole other issue

Good luck

Mike

Wouldn't it be better to back drill with a 5/16 bit 3/8 is awfull large.

[Powow]

Wouldn't it be better to back drill with a 5/16 bit 3/8 is awfull large.

i forgot to add in there to spin the drill backwords when back drilling.  a 3/8"drill makes the perfect indent for the square portion of the 1/4-20 carridge bolt.