VHS testing

[pembroke]

I talked to a guy at Gander Mountain this morning. He told me that the state is talking about banning dip netting altogether. Gander is not going to carry Emeralds at all, but will have plenty of Goldens and fatheads which they get from Arkansas. The 100 fish limit still applies no matter where the bait is from. I think we've seen the end of the generous dips that we are used to around Buffalo.

You are right on about the generous dips my cost for fatheads has doubled because i can no longer get them locally
Larry Ditzel
Pembroke Bait

[taxi1]

There is also a specific temperature range where it's alleged to cause mortalities. It's most active in temps < 50 F.

if it is active in water 50F orless after a few winters when the water temps drop will the vhs gradually phase out

You'd have to ask a fish pathologist. But I will tell you that usually pathogens run their course and the fish that do survive develop an immunity. However that doesn't prevent them from being carriers that can infect fish that haven't been exposed. VHS isn't the first virus to infect the Great Lakes. IPN was the last one.

Even pathologists are not sure what the future holds. Just educated guesses.

[Bartel Rd. Bait & Tackle]

pembroke my gander in syracuse will have emerald's my wholesaler found an out of state farm that is raising them
he already has sent his first batch out for certification

[jimski2]

Will we be able to use "frozen salted emeralds?"

[crayfishbob]

Will we be able to use "frozen salted emeralds?"

Absolutely. No certification needed either.

[jimski2]

We used to use frozen salted emeralds ice fishing for blue pike on Lake Erie 60 years ago. Last year I used them them for late summer perch fishing on Lake Erie when regular minnows were unavailable. Every day I went out, I ran out of bait and came home with 30+ perch, white perch and white bass. Yeah, but watch those artificial lure fly fishing only do-gooders screw this up too.

[adkman]

We had a meeting at our club last night with the DEC to discuss VHS and how it was going to effect our Northern Challenge.  The jest of it was that you can use salted bait of any kind.  You can use certified virus free bait in any lakes. If you trap your own bait you can only use it in the lake it was caught.  There is still lots of unanswered questions and you can expect to see some more regs comming down soon.  We were encouraged to keep in touch with the DEC and and send any questions directly to them.

As far as it effecting our derby, we have several bait shops in the area that have inspected bait and show their certifications.
A good source of information is
http://search.dec.state.ny.us/query.html?col=website&ht=0&qp=&qt=vhs&qs=&qc=&pw=100%25&ws=0&la=en&qm=0&st=1&nh=10&lk=1&rf=2&oq=&rq=0&si=0

[esox slayer]

I just forwarded the links posted on page 1 to a local bait dealer who is trying to find a cheaper alternative to the testing he's aware of now....Esox

[jflood]

just stopped by the wiggly worm. they are holding off on buying emeralds. didn't sound like they were going to get them for a while. it sounded like there was a great deal of uncertainty around what may or may not be legal in the not so distant future.only golden shiners for sale right now

[taxi1]

I have a supplier in Ohio that I get female only 10 to 12 inch yellow perch from to stock one of my ponds. He has told me it would cost $370.00 to test a lot of 60 perch with Microtechnolgies in Maine, and $450.00 to get a vet to take the samples. Needless to say I will probably be producing my own perch from here on out.