I tight line about 90 percent of the time and used 4 lb lime green Sufix with a clear 3 lb Sufix leader with great results. I'd stretch my line but let a slight coil in the water of high visable green line,slight twitch or bigger coil ment a hit. I used the 3 lb test tangerine orange line with a spring bobber, it turns invisible in the water,not good for tightening.