I think all the noise on the ice during a derby has a lot to do with that. I use to fish ice fishing derbies all the time but now if I do one it'd be the Benson. I can understand why some would like it but just isn't really my scene. I only really fish 3 different spots on St. Catherine and there all within 600 yards of the state park area so my fishing report for the lake is for only right there.