You Gotta Read This

[joefish]

http://apps.cio.ny.gov/apps/mediaContact/public/view.cfm?parm=EA7785C3-B27B-86C6-A676C0DFBD9C8017_341AD9B6-5056-9D0B-1A6735946DDCA110

[nitzer]

well, everything mentioned is the way it is now, however, i did not knw this:

•Do not reuse baitfish in another water-body if you have replaced the water they were purchased in

ill be honest, i change out the water regularly to keep my bait in the best possible shape i can. usually right before i leave a body of water i refresh the water berfore i leave.

[jonny boy]

do i understand this wright. does this mean that  the bait dealer gets ALL the water from the wholesaler. most all bait tanks i've seen at shops were topped off with local water.

[TheThinIce]

All bait shop tanks are filled with local water.

[Cook078]

And do not use tipups and jigging poles from one body of water to another as there may be traces of water on them....also be sure to change your boots too because you may have ice from a hole drilled from one body of water that you do not want to get onto another body of water...and if you take an ATV or sled out, be sure to change the tires or track before going to another body of water, same if you drive a truck out, change tires BEFORE going to another body of water....because everyone knows that almost all of our lakes are completly dead now and have no fish or any kind of life to them what-so-ever......

sorry couldnt resist....

[rippinlip]

Corporate America.  Let barges come in from foreign countries and dump crap in our waters and then make US citizens pay.

[perchtrapper]

Wow!! Guess I been breaking the law for some time now, I get a bunch of minnows and use them over my allowed time I change the water daily keeping them fresh, guess when I am done I just dump them in the parking lot. HUH! Cant see that

[bryantukkah]

And do not use tipups and jigging poles from one body of water to another as there may be traces of water on them....also be sure to change your boots too because you may have ice from a hole drilled from one body of water that you do not want to get onto another body of water...and if you take an ATV or sled out, be sure to change the tires or track before going to another body of water, same if you drive a truck out, change tires BEFORE going to another body of water....because everyone knows that almost all of our lakes are completly dead now and have no fish or any kind of life to them what-so-ever......

sorry couldnt resist....

Really?  Almost every body of water we have is so overrun with invasive species you don't even know what's native and not anymore.  Go take a look at what's actually in the body of water you fish regularly and you will probably be amazed at how many of the species aren't supposed to be there... Rainbow trout, brown trout, salmon, alewives (sawbellies), smelt, pike, gobies, milfoil, hydrilla, eel grass, European Rudd, carp, lampreys, the list goes on and on and on it makes my head spin.  We should do whatever it takes to stop the problem... and if you dont tell people not to do something they will never not do it on their own and just keep trashing everything we have like we did for a hundred years already.  And on your second note..... If you're trying to lead us to believe that fishing is better now than before people came along and that it doesn't matter anyways because we can't mess it up and theres fish everywhere for the taking you've got another thing coming.  I wish i could see how good the fishing must have been before pollution and human intervention.  Anything we can do to try and get it back to those days is a good thing if you ask me.  People can choose whether or to to follow rules, regulations, and laws but without them it would be a free for all for everyone and the "abundance" of life that you've become accustomed to might not exist as you know it.

[Cook078]

Really?  Almost every body of water we have is so overrun with invasive species you don't even know what's native and not anymore.  Go take a look at what's actually in the body of water you fish regularly and you will probably be amazed at how many of the species aren't supposed to be there... Rainbow trout, brown trout, salmon, alewives (sawbellies), smelt, pike, gobies, milfoil, hydrilla, eel grass, European Rudd, carp, lampreys, the list goes on and on and on it makes my head spin.  We should do whatever it takes to stop the problem... and if you dont tell people not to do something they will never not do it on their own and just keep trashing everything we have like we did for a hundred years already.  And on your second note..... If you're trying to lead us to believe that fishing is better now than before people came along and that it doesn't matter anyways because we can't mess it up and theres fish everywhere for the taking you've got another thing coming.  I wish i could see how good the fishing must have been before pollution and human intervention.  Anything we can do to try and get it back to those days is a good thing if you ask me.  People can choose whether or to to follow rules, regulations, and laws but without them it would be a free for all for everyone and the "abundance" of life that you've become accustomed to might not exist as you know it.

What does that have to do with simply using water in your bucket for your minnows?...that was the point...

[soulstream]

Don't forget cormorants. If they would have an open season on those fish killers, boy would I be busy!!

[bryantukkah]

What does that have to do with simply using water in your bucket for your minnows?...that was the point...

Just to clear the air here:  I was quoting your post, therefore I was responding to what they had to say and not necessarily to the thread as a whole.  But to answer your question... Everything!  The reason they have baitfish regulations is to stop the spread of disease and invasive species.  Seems overwhelmingly obvious to me.  Did you think they came up with these laws for their enjoyment or out of spite?  If you like I can elaborate, even monosyllabically (with the exception of the words viral, hemorrhagic, and septicemia amongst others as they would be critical in an explanation) if it makes it easier for comprehension.. FML.

[Cook078]

Yes we are obviously very stupid, so please type slowly and clearly....

[joefish]

 ???WOW How did DEC REMINDS ANGLERS TO PUT SAFETY FIRST WHEN ENJOYING ICE FISHING get to all of this previously posted stuff ?  The intent was to have you read what the DEC had posted for Safety and ice.  Guess it just got out of hand.  Have a goooood fishing day or any kind of day you want.

[perchtrapper]

No it was a good post, and  I got the what was being said (the joking part by Cook078), but as usual there is someone with no sense of humor and feels they need to take control and teach the rest of us uneducated folks. 

[trapper2000]

joe  it was a  good  post!  cook you  made me giggle  and  bryantukkah you  need  to have a beer

[harrops26]

Just to clear the air here:  I was quoting your post, therefore I was responding to what they had to say and not necessarily to the thread as a whole.  But to answer your question... Everything!  The reason they have baitfish regulations is to stop the spread of disease and invasive species.  Seems overwhelmingly obvious to me.  Did you think they came up with these laws for their enjoyment or out of spite?  If you like I can elaborate, even monosyllabically (with the exception of the words viral, hemorrhagic, and septicemia amongst others as they would be critical in an explanation) if it makes it easier for comprehension.. FML.

Sounds like someone majored in conservation biology.

[bryantukkah]

Sounds like someone majored in conservation biology.

Nope, I actually just care about conservation and our environment and realize how fragile it is.  I respect syntax and diction as well.  I guess that puts me in the minority on both accounts.

[Holmesy_1369]

Great now I feel like a criminal for changing my
Water I should call my local Eco right now n confess.   Lol but all kidding aside that's a pretty ridiculous rule how can the bait live ten days if need be in the same water it looks pretty grimy after a couple days idk.

[RPudney]

I don't think any of that is law, just a recommendation not to take water from one lake and dump it in another. I would say changing
the water with your own home faucet water is perfectly fine, although well water works better as city water has chlorine & other crap
they put in it, not so good for the baitfish.

[Eagle Ed]

Good point about the chlorine in the city water.  I have well water and change the water in my bait bucket.  It really helps keep the bait alive for the complete ten days and I make sure to keep my bait receipt.

Eagle Ed

[trapper2000]

i  could  be  totally  wrong  and  theres  no way  to  check  anyway  but i  was  under  the  assumption  that if  you took  bait  to a  lake  you  could  only bring it back to that lake ! example if i  fish  sandy  pond  i  really  shouldn't take  my  left over bait to  oneida the  next  day  and  brn. you need  to  relax  and  stop thinking  you  set on the  right  hand side and  get  to pass  judgement..... all  sportsman  care  about the  enviroment  and   censervation  ....thier  just not  knuckleheads  and  understand  what a  joke  is

[Cook078]

AMEN...I absoluty do care for our lakes...but lets be realistic!  Using water for your minnows is not going to transplant rainbow trout or gobies or whatever....I respect the law with the bait-fish and all other laws that have some common sense attatched to them!   

[trapper2000]

AMEN...I absoluty do care for our lakes...but lets be realistic!  Using water for your minnows is not going to transplant rainbow trout or gobies or whatever....I respect the law with the bait-fish and all other laws that have some common sense attatched to them!   

truth is  we can't stop the  transport of  vhs  and  gobies are in the  canal system  only a matter of  time now and they will appear  everywhere,i'm not sure  what the answer is  to be  honest .i  remeber  the  big scare with  zebra  mussels  yet they  actually  did a good  job helping to  clean onondaga lake and  the  river  system ....  i seen the  vhs  kill in oswego and i was  scared it was going to  totally  destroy the fishing .... it  didn't  ..... i  catch  rudds all the  time  ....pike love  them  .....carp are  everywhere  and  becoming a friend  to fisherman as a sport fish ....  the list goes on and on from red  fox  to our  king salmon ..... sometimes  change  ends up being good  other times it don't ,but  you really can't stop it.....  look at the eastern coyote ...someday well actually  figure out where they came from.....i know  it wasn't  from changing minnow water

[deadsmelthead]

Just to clear the air here:  I was quoting your post, therefore I was responding to what they had to say and not necessarily to the thread as a whole.  But to answer your question... Everything!  The reason they have baitfish regulations is to stop the spread of disease and invasive species.  Seems overwhelmingly obvious to me.  Did you think they came up with these laws for their enjoyment or out of spite?  If you like I can elaborate, even monosyllabically (with the exception of the words viral, hemorrhagic, and septicemia amongst others as they would be critical in an explanation) if it makes it easier for comprehension.. FML.

At 1st this is what I said to myself about the new regs... Its for the good of the fisheries... Then after thinking about it overtime I said.... Pull this leg and it will play jingle bells... All these diseases and invasives 95% of the time come in through Lake Ontario, the barge canal is hooked up with lake Ontario and lake Erie, Oneida lake the finger lakes the Mohawk river etc etc etc...Zebra muscles (at least in my area) along the barge and Mohawk are rampant.. They cake up the shorelines...Gobies I believe have been verified in Oneida lake...So that means they are in the barge and its only a matter of time before they are everywhere else they can get.... This VHS thing I think personally was blown way out of proportion..When it was 1st brought about they made like every fishes brains were gonna burst out of their head overnight and we would see massive fish kills...

New York because of its water ports on all sides of the state with its abundance of freshwater connecting to basically international water ways is never going to be able to stop any kind of invasive or diseases unless they stopped all travel on those waterways all together...

That's just the way I view it.. The only thing the current bait law is doing making me call every bsit shop to make sure they have bait before I make the trip to get it... When before I just went and pulled the trap out of the creek by my house...