Keep 2or3 different colors and sizes in myice gear, tried them few yrs back, and done well onthem, great eastlake, thought my son had bottom, only 12 ft water, til I saw the silver pink flash, ill garranty 5lb bow, course my son managed to shakehim off, but after I saw it was gonna mount it, all he had to do was get it in, lol, but that was bow colored pheobe, hope this helps, good luck