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jchunter, hello. I see you are from Elkhorn so my assumption is that you hit Geneva often once safe ice is available. I live in Somers (Kenosha County) and loved fishing for gills and crappies through the ice at Geneva (Geneva Bay and Trinkies/flats). In all honesty, I have avoided Geneva over the last couple of seasons and opted for Delavan instead. What I was experiencing was that panfish were becoming scarce in Geneva Bay compared to 5-10 years ago. I also noticed fewer guys in Geneva Bay each season and the ones that were there, were pushing off-shore further and further. Why? My observation was that many of the weeds were laying down in the bay due to zebra mussels. Some of my favorite areas in the bay were no longer holding standing weeds....no standing weeds, very few fish. Would love to hear your thoughts on this matter. I will probably give Geneva another shot this winter as Delavan has its downside...too many anglers concentrated together. Thanks jchunter.