Got on the ice today for the last time this year ...the ice was around 41/2 ins.. But had to get off at around 10 am...a lot of movement and cracking. Just did not think it would hold out much longer with the sun making it soft and water moving in the holes as we walked...we did put about 30 good gills on the ice but the fun had to end. Be safe out there the the ice is shaky ...we all had a good year for fishing for ice Not like last year hope to be on again. Next year...putting gear away till. Next year time to get the boat ready it will not be long. Till it is all gone.....be safe ...don't. Take any chances. For a fish...tight lines,,,,god bless us. For a safe 2013 on the ice