eskimo stingray.....runs like a terd!!!

[hoppy]

i boguht an ekimo auger a few years back. in all honesty it hasnt seen much use as it really has never run good. figured id pull it out for today trip as the ice is getting thick.

fires right up everytime. let it warm up and drill three holes no problem. start the fourth hole and it starts to bog down and out. so much so that at full throttle the auger isnt even turning its bogged so much. i dont get it. im sick of this mackine being a piece of junk. i have tried adjusting it, etc, etc.
doesnt seem to change anything. if i could drill a 2' hole this thing would be at the bottom of some lake. its havey to drag around and runs like crap. whats the use?
is there anywhere that can look at and fix these things? i dont fix engines. hydraul;ics and pumps i can fix. engines my knowledged is limited.
aybody have any advise or anything i might be able to try?
i have a $300 anchor sitting in my truck!!!!!!!

[hankthecrank]

Sounds like a fuel delivery problem, make sure the vent on the cap is open, depending on the type either open the vent or if it is a duckbill inside the cap make sure it will open, squeeze the duckbill sideways to see that it opens. also may have an in-the-tank filter, drain tank and take a look inside. If nothing else send it to me here in Nebraska, I like 300.00 boat anchors. Just kidding good luck, nothing more aggrevating than something that is powered that has no power.

[fishwiz4]

agreed.  vent cap or carb issue.  carbs are not terribly difficult to remove and clean.  from my experience, this is almost always the problem on small two stroke motors

[GerryBK]

Three years ago I bought the Eskimo Shark 8"
Following the manual instructions, I mixed the gas 20:1
I had the same problems that you discribe and called the company
asking about the problem.
I was told that the manual was wrong, the proper mix was 50:1 not 20:1
I had to take it in and have the carb rebuilt.
Maybe check with the head office.

Phone 1-800-345-6007

Web site  www.ardisam.com

Hope this helps

[hoppy]

gerrybk............... ......funny you mentioned that as i was just going to email them.
the cap on the tank of the auger says 20:1-25:1
went to the site toda and it says 50:1. good news is i dont believe i have used it enough to do any damage. im going to start with some fresh gas and some carb cleaner. see what happens then. if that doesnt do it then im changing this restricted/krimped fuel line.
if that doesnt do it then it may need a carb rebuild. we shall see

[GerryBK]

Hoppy...........
happy to help.
My Shark went down within the first week.
It finally went in for repairs and I haven't had a problem with it again.

Gerry

[pike4some]

Mine would die after a few holes but it seemed to be the vent on the cap. If I loosened it would stay running.

[hoppy]

i tried looseing the cap and also taking it off. nothing helped. i can blow through the cap. therefor i believe its working correctly.
ive been told the rati of 20:1 as said in my manual and on the gas cap itself is wrong.
a guy called them and he was told it should be 50:1. wonder if that may be the issue.
whats next a carb rebiuid?

[mud_n_fun]

There should also be a screen in the fuel tank make sure that isn't plugged.

[GerryBK]

I was just wondering if you got the problem fixed??
and what it was.

Gerry

[hoppy]

gerry................. i just walked in from giving her a test run................... ...........
RUNS LIKE A BAT OUT OF HELL NOW!!!!!

heres what i did................... .i removed the aircleaner and carb assy. also removed the gas tank.
cleaned everything out of the bad mixture(25:1)
took carb apart and cleaned it out with carb cleaner. checked all screens etc including fuel filter in tank. all were clear. cleaned them anyway. removed and cleaned sparkplug. as i said i have owned this machine for 4 years but it looks brand new. might have gotten a few trips out of her. but she never really ran right. anyway..........put it all back together and filled her up with fresh gas and oil mixed at 50:1. funny how eskimo screwed that up.................... ....primed her and gave her a few cranks. after a few she fired up. at first it was doing what is was doing before..........damn i thought.
but then i forgot i hadnt adjusted the screw on the carb. i took it out to clean that hole. cranked her down a few and whalla!!!!!! didnt want to over do it but have it set so she isnt boggind down anymore and should cut real nice now. in all honesty i cant really say that all it really needed was to be adjusted. bottom line is now i feel alot better knowing that i took this thing apart and now its clean.
running on the correct mixture. im going to hit the pond out back after dinner to poke a few test holes.
ill let you know. thanks everyone!!!!

[GerryBK]

welcome and good fishing!!!

Gerry

[pike4some]

Atleast now you can say "I am an Ice Fisherman and I am smarter than the auger"

[Kim]

Check your clutch area could be clutch or a bearing there

[BlueDuck]

Glad to here you got it fixed.  I have a Stingray and it runs great.

[Gambler]

heres what i did................... .i removed the aircleaner and carb assy. also removed the gas tank.
cleaned everything out of the bad mixture(25:1)
took carb apart and cleaned it out with carb cleaner. checked all screens etc including fuel filter in tank. all were clear. cleaned them anyway. removed and cleaned sparkplug. as i said i have owned this machine for 4 years but it looks brand new. might have gotten a few trips out of her. but she never really ran right. anyway..........put it all back together and filled her up with fresh gas and oil mixed at 50:1. funny how eskimo screwed that up.................... ....primed her and gave her a few cranks. after a few she fired up. at first it was doing what is was doing before..........d**n i thought.
but then i forgot i hadnt adjusted the screw on the carb. i took it out to clean that hole. cranked her down a few and whalla!!!!!! didnt want to over do it but have it set so she isnt boggind down anymore and should cut real nice now. in all honesty i cant really say that all it really needed was to be adjusted. bottom line is now i feel alot better knowing that i took this thing apart and now its clean.
running on the correct mixture. im going to hit the pond out back after dinner to poke a few test holes.
ill let you know. thanks everyone!!!!

What engine is on that Mako? A Tecumseh? if so I believe you need a 25:1 mixture.
The confusion a few years ago was from the "Shark" model. It used an entirely different motor. The motor on the sharks was an "Emak" engine which is an Italian built chainsaw engine. It required a mixture of 50:1. I have never owned a Tecumseh engine but I am sure many on here have (strikemaster, jiffy, eskimo all were the same) and if I am wrong on the 25:1 mixture for it someone will let us know. I would hate to see you blow it up now that you have it running good.

[Dog-duster]

I dunno about before but I have a Mako that I bought new in 09 and it has a Viper engine on it. I'm pretty sure it calls for 50:1 on the mix too. Mine isn't the most powerful out there but it cuts almost better than my cleats will stick into the ice. Works fine for me so far.

[poor_fisher]

I have the Viper on my Stingray and I was told that the 50:1 was a little light and that they prefer about 40:1 which is what I run and generally have had no issues in 3 years of running it.

[Doubles Shooter]

Run Opti 2 in it at 100:1. Been using it for 5 years in 3 saws, two weed eaters and my 24 year old Jiffy 30 without a problem.

[engineman]

Opti2 @ 50:1 is the correct mix. I fix Eskimo and Jiffy, and have used my own eskimo's for years. I always mix em 50:1. Since the invention of new and better oils for 2 cycle, there is no need for more than 50:1.

[vticeman]

this is what they just told me today:

-----Original Message-----
From: bob **** [mailto:*****@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:30 PM
To: Ardisam Info
Subject: gas/oil mix on z51


"i have a 2004 z51 ice auger with a 10" blade and by looking at the online manual from you guys it says that i should mix the gas/oil at 25/1 ratio. i have heard that this was a mistake and it should be a 50/1 ratio. please tell me the right ratio before i blow this auger up. thanks"

The correct mix for that model is 50:1  let me know if you have any other questions.
 
 
Wendy Holub

Assistant Office Manager

Ardisam, Inc.

P: 715-822-2415 / 800-345-6007  x 105

F: 715-822-2223

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P: 715-822-2470 / 800-450-3343

F: 715-822-2124
 

[Doubles Shooter]

Opti2 @ 50:1 is the correct mix. I fix Eskimo and Jiffy, and have used my own eskimo's for years. I always mix em 50:1. Since the invention of new and better oils for 2 cycle, there is no need for more than 50:1.

Opti2 can be used at 100:1, and has been used successfully by many people at that ratio.

[Drifter_016]

Opti2 can be used at 100:1, and has been used successfully by many people at that ratio.

Yep, works fine on my Strike Master.
Just read the directions on the bottle and follow them.
They wouldn't tell you to mix it that way if it was wrong. 

[esox_magnum]

I run Amsoil at 80-1, my 2 strokes love me now.