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well i use it for every species that swim here in mi.from monster flatheads,sturgeon and king salmon.everyone has their own opinion but i think flouro is coily stiff crap.i will add overpriced too.lol plain old berkley big game gets it done..
I use 40# power pro, it works just fine just don't horse them in let them run about 3 times an they tire out very quickly. I also use a gaff to lift out of hole, going to eat it anyways. If it's to small I don't use gaff. You will get more action on power pro than you will with floro. the same diameter it's just more limp and the bait swims more freely. Also use #10 treble hooks in red. I have fought and cought every kind of game fish with this set up for many years. Use what ever you think works for your set and let the bite tell you what works. Good luck on what you figure out and play the fish and don't horse them.
Power pro as a leader? Are u kidding me? Braid is the absolute worst kind of line you could use for a leader. Not abrasion resistant at all. Some of u guys are leaving me scratching my head....
as long as you dont mind getting 1/3 as many flags
I'm not convinced Papa. Let's say you're out fishing me 3 to 1. Let's change holes and bait and see what happens. Bet you won't be outfishing me then. Lot depends on location. Even a difference of 20'. and the bait you use: species, size and how cared for.Way too many variables to simplify it down to leader material. Not picking, just sayin'.
I'm not convinced Papa. Let's say you're out fishing me 3 to 1. Let's change holes and bait and see what happens. Bet you won't be outfishing me then. Lot depends on location. Even a difference of 20'. and the bait you use: species, size and how cared for.Way too many variables to simplify it down to leader material. Not discounting your experiences. That's, what we all base our opinions on, just sayin'.
I bet if we fished side by side I would land more fish than you and I might take more time to land the fish. I used to use 20 lbs big game mono but I found that the braid is much more limp for live bait witch is what I use in my home lakes. Now if I was using dead bait I would use wire and for open water also fishing for pike because the pike get airborne and shake their heads alot. Under the ice they react differently, i know you know this but just let the line loose more in your fingers when they shake their heads and run, it's not a race to see how fast you land the fish. Use what ever works for your lake that you fish . Tip uup!!!!!
I have been rolling 7s for a long time then. I should be in Vegas we don't have 30# pike in Wisconsin maybe 6-12lbs . I don't think you catch 30# pike but it's nice to dream of on that size. Maine st record is 31.2. You must be a pro fisherman to lose a 30# fish all the time wow
Finnt, you need to take a trip up to GB/Door County late season. You CAN crack a 30# (maybe) there plus average size is much larger. Biggest pike I ever had on in WI was at Fox Lake. Hadn't had a flag all day and finally popped one on a smelt. Took three nice runs from the hole so I got a good look, Easily 42 - 44" which would have put her in the 20 - 22# range. Fourth time past the hole I was sure she was gonna come. She just rolled on her side, opened her mouth right under the hole and everything just lifted out. Except the fish. Never got a hook. She'd crushed it so hard I never caught any meat with a point. Had that happen with muskies on rubber (a lot) and wood jerkbaits but never with a Q/S rig and deads. Can't win 'em all...Too much pressure in WI to have a consistent crack at 40" fish. Few places like Madison (min size 40"), Big Cedar and a couple others. Then a coupla hands full of 32" minimum size but after that it's pretty much catch and keep most anything of legal length is kept. It really is the pressure here that keeps our pike from reaching their potential.FWIW a 30# pike will be almost 50". Pretty few and far in between anywhere. My open water fishin' partner took a guided trip to AK one August. Way up the river, lived on a houseboat for a week, caught dozens of 40"s but only one 50" caught during that week. he nailed a 50.25" and he was so proud. Even there 50's are not all that common. I will not take nbourke's comment as he catches 50s all the time rather, when you have the fish of a lifetime on the other end, that you do not want to be seriously compromised. And I happily subscribe to that!
Important to keep in mind!! Pike don't have blade like teeth. They have long very pointy teeth. Result of story I did a decade ago. Lot of pike heads and teeth. Obvious why the super pointed feet of small pike might afraid line well.Steel works but I think you will attract more pike with light abrasion proof line. I'm also of the opinion that active live shiners work better than any dead bait. Maybe at Ice out when bottom is littered with dead bait fish?
From what I remember reading a long time ago you dont need a leader its how you play themBecause you could land them on 20lb or they could easily cut through 150lb fluorocarbon
There are several things that matter when fishing pike. The first thing is where the hook is, if the fish swallows the hook, the leader will be running thru their teeth vs hooked in the lip or roof of the mouth where the leader probubly wont be affected. You have to have some kind of leader, you cant just tie it to the dacron backer!!! The difference in leader in some peoples opinion is line shyness from the pike, they are very lazy, warm blooded fish. Some of us believe that the more visable the line is the less flags you will get. Others believe you could use rope with a hook and it wouldnt matter. A lot of your cut offs come from when the pike turn or trying to turn the head up the hole and at that point leaders really matter.
. Pike teeth? Sorry, Your correcting the wrong person. Fishing writer for many decades. Pike research was done with help of many fish experts. I have personally she'd blood to picketed ,pike , walleye and even baracuda. Now Cuba have cutting edge teeth!! All of my research showed that Pike have "needle pointed teeth"None show that they have the proverbial "razor sharp" sides.I reiterate that pike teeth can be needle sharp BUT razor edged.One abraids and the other slices like a razor. I'm not saying that you weren't sliced by needle sharp pike. I am saying that pike teeth don't have " razor sharp" sides. Think what you want?Dick
Exactly what I’m saying esox. Thank u.
. Pike teeth? Sorry, Your correcting the wrong person. Fishing writer for many decades. Pike research was done with help of many fish experts. I have personally she'd blood to picketed ,pike , walleye and even baracuda. Now Cuba have cutting edge teeth!! All of my research showed that Pike have "needle pointed teeth"None show that they have the proverbial "razor sharp" sides.I reiterate that pike teeth can be needle sharp BUT razor edged.One abraids and the other slices like a razor. I'm not saying that you weren't sliced by needle sharp pike. I am saying that pike teeth don't have " razor sharp" sides. Think what you want?Dick"Pike have rather large, fang-like teeth, both along the upper and lower jawline. In the frontal area, the teeth are smaller than the ones on the side, but they are more numerous. They are usually also somewhat angled inward." Fang like, not sharp on the sides.
You may lose that fish of a lifetime with flouro but there is a good chance you would never have even had it hit with steel, JMHO