thanks harpenter, I thought there was some deeper water in that "pond". ( most the strip pits are 10 ft. or less, almost don't need my lowrance). Don't know if I'll get out, but some of my favorite trips were at night, full moon, warm in the fishtrap or frabill! Be careful out there, a 70 year man just drown somewhere near here fishing the ice, maybe it was closer to chicago, I don't see how we would even have 2 inches even weeks ago. Guys need to buy the new float suits, I got a strikemaster, they're great.