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Title: Tiger trout (updated 11-25 with uintah tigers)
Post by: muskyon46 on Jan 09, 2012, 02:06 PM
Enjoy the pic. These fish are a thing of beauty. Posted both pics the one not in the sun looks so much better.

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/IMG029-1.jpg)

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/IMG028.jpg)

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/Birchtiger1-1-1-1.jpg)
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Post by: PSCfishingking on Jan 09, 2012, 06:50 PM
I'm gonna have to get out there to UT, we don't have tiger trout in NY. Gorgious
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Post by: adkRoy on Jan 09, 2012, 06:53 PM
I'm gonna have to get out there to UT, we don't have tiger trout in NY. Gorgious

Not naturally but I do know one place they are stocked that you can open water fish only.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: muskyon46 on Jan 09, 2012, 07:36 PM
Biggest one I've seen was 27in caught thru the ice by my buddy. My personal best is 25in caught off the bank in the fall
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Post by: wyofly99 on Jan 09, 2012, 07:42 PM
Thats amazing!!!!!
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Post by: Goatskin on Jan 09, 2012, 08:16 PM
Not naturally but I do know one place they are stocked that you can open water fish only.  ;) ;D
Where would that happen to be? ;D Wouldn't mind crossing another trout off the ol' list.
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Post by: gumpy2 on Jan 09, 2012, 08:33 PM
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I'm gonna have to get out there to UT, we don't have tiger trout in NY. Gorgious

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Not naturally but I do know one place they are stocked that you can open water fish only.

Yes we do.  And yes, naturally.......not common however.
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Post by: Sgowan713 on Jan 09, 2012, 08:42 PM
thats a cool looking fish
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Post by: northern fisher on Jan 10, 2012, 04:18 AM
They are a very sharp looking fish
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Post by: meek48 on Jan 10, 2012, 05:37 AM
nice fish  :)
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Post by: ochocenko on Jan 10, 2012, 12:28 PM
Yes we do.  And yes, naturally.......not common however.

A natural tiger? Tigers are a stocked fish. You can't have a natural tiger because they are a sterile intergeneric fish.
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Post by: JiggerMan on Jan 10, 2012, 01:27 PM
its a cross between a female brown trout and a male brookie. 

If Those salmon (King and Coho) can cross supposedly naturally in the great lakes than why couldn't the tiger happen naturally. 

I would think that If it did, it would be very rare.  Considering that even in a controlled environment (hatchery) the success rate is generally less than 20%. 
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: JiggerMan on Jan 10, 2012, 01:31 PM
A natural tiger? Tigers are a stocked fish. You can't have a natural tiger because they are a sterile intergeneric fish.

the tiger trout it self is sterile.  although the males will still go through the physical changes that a male trout will go through during the spawn (hooked jaws, kind of pan out a little)
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Post by: WILLYTROUT on Jan 10, 2012, 01:45 PM
they stock them here in ct. i have one pond i catch them all the time. they are real aggressive. thats a beauty. i've caught them up to 16"
i read they are a good stocking fish because their growth rate is fast. i've also caught them in a couple of rivers in eastern ct.

wt
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: muskyon46 on Jan 10, 2012, 04:48 PM
The tigers are a sterile fish from what i have read up on them from my state fisheries biologists and yes they are very agressive with a fast growth rate. I have only had 2 occasions to get them with the brookie spawn colors going and its also impressive. Ill add a pic with one. Such a blast to catch. They attack rapalas. Ill have packs of 2 or 3 follow right to the bank pretty consistantly in the fall. Then when they see you they head out and with another cast just past them they'll do it all over again. Good times.
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Post by: fishit on Jan 10, 2012, 05:16 PM
Where would that happen to be? ;D Wouldn't mind crossing another trout off the ol' list.
Check the NY DEC stocking list and you might find a body of water that is stocked near you...I have caught a few Tigers but only one was a naturally occuring fish up in the head waters of a small brook trout stream that does not get any stocking...Great looking fish!
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Post by: Jigger Don on Jan 10, 2012, 05:40 PM
Awesome looking fish
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Post by: gumpy2 on Jan 10, 2012, 07:09 PM
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A natural tiger? Tigers are a stocked fish. You can't have a natural tiger because they are a sterile intergeneric fish.

Tigers themselves may be sterile but they are the offspring of a brook trout and a brown.  Since both spawn in the fall, any stream that has naturally occuring brooks and browns in it has the chance of producing tiger trout.  It doesn't happen often, and isn't common, but yes, they occur in the wild.   It seems like for whatever reason, certain watersheds produce them while many other do not.........conditons have to be perfect.
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Post by: ochocenko on Jan 11, 2012, 02:43 PM
Tigers themselves may be sterile but they are the offspring of a brook trout and a brown.  Since both spawn in the fall, any stream that has naturally occuring brooks and browns in it has the chance of producing tiger trout.  It doesn't happen often, and isn't common, but yes, they occur in the wild.   It seems like for whatever reason, certain watersheds produce them while many other do not.........conditons have to be perfect.

I know they are a cross - intergeneric - but they have to heat shock the fertilized egg to create the extra set of chromosomes (the brown is a salmon and the brook is a char)... How would that naturally happen? I'm not doubting it, just curious.
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Post by: jimmyclaude on Jan 11, 2012, 05:14 PM
Not naturally but I do know one place they are stocked that you can open water fish only.  ;) ;D
Cobleskill Res???
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: TOGUEMAN2011 on Jan 11, 2012, 07:02 PM
They are cool looking fish. Wish we had them in Maine ;D Nice catch.
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: gumpy2 on Jan 11, 2012, 07:22 PM

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I know they are a cross - intergeneric - but they have to heat shock the fertilized egg to create the extra set of chromosomes (the brown is a salmon and the brook is a char)... How would that naturally happen? I'm not doubting it, just curious.

While uncommon it happens.  Extra chromosomes occur even in humans on occasion  i.e. Downs Syndrome.


An excerpt from a statement by the  National Park Service,  U.S. Department of the Interior,  regarding Shenandoah NP :


 " Hybridization with brown trout has been documented in every park stream containing cohabitant populations of both species. The progeny resulting from male brook trout and female brown trout are known generally as “tiger trout”. Within the few park streams where both species coexist, tiger trout are occasionally encountered. Interestingly, tiger trout encounters seem to occur during periods when the brown trout population is depressed creating conditions where female brown trout are more likely to be encountered and spawned by male brook trout. Reciprocal crosses between male brown trout and female brook trout have never been observed in the wild. These progeny known as “leopard trout” have only been produced artificially among captives and are morphologically different in external comparison to tiger trout.  "   
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: muskyon46 on Jan 11, 2012, 09:42 PM
Now thats some very informative reading on cross breading done all by itself. Sounds good to me. Thanks gumpy2. Im just happy to have had the chance to tangle with some of these beautiful fish which have all been returned to battle another day. I just wish some of the other people that fish the lakes we have them in here would do the same. Take a bow home as they will reproduce!
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: fishhunter77 on Jan 11, 2012, 11:12 PM
Interesting trout!! :)  Never had a chance to go after one.
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Post by: Epkomd on Jan 11, 2012, 11:53 PM
beautiful fish. id want one mounted.
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: jimmyclaude on Jan 16, 2012, 06:05 PM
While uncommon it happens.  Extra chromosomes occur even in humans on occasion  i.e. Downs Syndrome.


An excerpt from a statement by the  National Park Service,  U.S. Department of the Interior,  regarding Shenandoah NP :


 " Hybridization with brown trout has been documented in every park stream containing cohabitant populations of both species. The progeny resulting from male brook trout and female brown trout are known generally as “tiger trout”. Within the few park streams where both species coexist, tiger trout are occasionally encountered. Interestingly, tiger trout encounters seem to occur during periods when the brown trout population is depressed creating conditions where female brown trout are more likely to be encountered and spawned by male brook trout. Reciprocal crosses between male brown trout and female brook trout have never been observed in the wild. These progeny known as “leopard trout” have only been produced artificially among captives and are morphologically different in external comparison to tiger trout.  "
Is there Banjo music involved..  ;)
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Post by: ptownrowdy on Jan 19, 2012, 07:03 PM
 :ojealous :tipup:
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Post by: stealhead4749 on Jan 19, 2012, 07:05 PM
Great looking fish!!!
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Post by: muskyon46 on Jan 21, 2012, 12:32 AM
Great looking fish!!!

:ojealous :tipup:

Thx guys they are great fighters
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Post by: Just_Fishin on Jan 21, 2012, 07:47 AM
Looks Tasty :) nice catch!
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: mike304 on Jan 22, 2012, 09:57 AM
They can actually occur naturally, although it is very rare. I caught one out of a stream near where I grew up that was only 5" long, which was too small to have been stocked(not to mention that the stream wasn't stocked to begin with!). I was in college for fisheries and wildlife management and showed it to my fisheries Prof, who confirmed it was a tiger.
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Post by: tundraman on Jan 22, 2012, 11:33 AM
crazy!
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Post by: MOONEY on Jan 24, 2012, 09:48 AM
That is a really cool fish, I've never seen one of them before.
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself (updated)
Post by: muskyon46 on Aug 23, 2012, 11:48 PM
I found a pic of this 27incher my buddy caught a couple of winters ago while looking for a pic to enter in the contest, just had to post it up after i decided to go with a sunset pic instead. Beautiful fish

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/Bubbirchtiger_001.jpg)

and some more with spawn color

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/Photo0139.jpg)

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/0930110754-00.jpg)

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/0930110708-00.jpg)

heres the 25in i caught

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/233.jpg)



sorry about blurring out the great scenery from these lakes but some people will take everyone home they catch, we just want them to get bigger
Title: Re: Tiger trout (updated with a bigger tiger)
Post by: Pauly G. on Aug 24, 2012, 09:11 AM
I have seen video of people catching these in Michigan. Only tiny ones though, these are huge!
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Post by: fishonone on Aug 24, 2012, 08:01 PM
ya them fish are fun i cannot wait till fall to go get some tiger on. my best i think is 26 what you think musky46 ;D, but i want the ice to get here  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: muskyon46 on Aug 25, 2012, 01:13 AM
my best i think is 26 what you think musky46

ya you got me by an inch and bub has me by 2, hopefully that will all change this fall  ;)2 bring on the cold weather. Hey you should post a pic of some of yours ill add my 25in to the pics above
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Post by: fishonone on Aug 25, 2012, 09:41 AM
(http://[img][color=black][img])[/color][/img][/img]ok see if this works (http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg492/fishon11/Photo0055.jpg)now i need to get one threw the hard deck ;D ;D
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Post by: The Reel Deal on Sep 23, 2012, 04:01 AM
Wow! Great looking fish!
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Post by: fishonone on Sep 23, 2012, 11:43 AM
getting ready to go for them, we hope to get in to some nice ones maybe the wall mounter ;D
Title: Re: Tiger trout (updated 11-25 with uintah tigers)
Post by: muskyon46 on Nov 25, 2012, 10:46 PM
made our 1st ice trip to the high country friday and found some safe ice that had plenty of willing tigers

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/IMG366-1.jpg)

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/IMG358.jpg)

pretty cool how the color can very in these fish
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Post by: just_a_beer_man on Nov 26, 2012, 09:03 AM
Not naturally but I do know one place they are stocked that you can open water fish only.  ;) ;D

Ive caught a few there.   Just wish we could Ice fish it!!!
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Post by: Bigassbassman on Nov 26, 2012, 10:38 AM
Nice job --- beautiful fish!  Those are on my bucket list, for sure... :tipup: :tipup: :tipup:
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Post by: polski on Nov 26, 2012, 05:01 PM
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd460/jpeets1/29AA76F4-D60D-418B-BC15-FEA17224E2DD-18944-000045DD5EFAD055.jpg) I got 3 in one afternoon on a yellow rooster tail this fish inhaled it the other I saved for someone else
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Post by: muskyon46 on Nov 26, 2012, 08:30 PM
Nice fish polski, the reds in that thing are awesome. We keep tryin to get them when they get the spawn colors going, but it can be tough to time every year with the way our resevoirs fluctuate around here. Again nice fish
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Post by: fishonone on Nov 26, 2012, 08:41 PM
that a nice mount i would like to get a 27in and put it on the wall
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Post by: petrgill on Nov 27, 2012, 11:23 AM
Nice, always like the driftwood mounts.
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Post by: missoulafish on Nov 27, 2012, 11:59 PM
Great pictures guys!
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Post by: acaravaglia on Dec 04, 2012, 12:41 PM
Never got one. Mostly stocked right?
Title: Re: Tiger trout (updated 11-25 with uintah tigers)
Post by: muskyon46 on Dec 04, 2012, 06:50 PM
Yes they are here in utah, but there is the possibilty to happen natrually just not in utah. They are all home grown at the hatcheries
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Post by: hesseltine32 on Dec 06, 2012, 05:12 PM
nice.  a fish id love to cross off the list
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Post by: IceRaider on Jan 18, 2013, 03:25 AM
These fish are really cool looking. I did a Google image search and found these nice pics:
(http://s2.postimage.org/6qucq9qrd/Tiger_Trout_2.jpg)

(http://s1.postimage.org/624bocu7j/3b98b039dba5c6ae11fdd50520683e0c.jpg)

(http://s7.postimage.org/uf26q7ctn/img_2574.jpg)

(http://s13.postimage.org/uvn49gtbr/Tiger_Trout.jpg)

(http://s2.postimage.org/vcg9ueyt5/Tiggere.jpg)

(http://s8.postimage.org/amymz62sl/tiger_trout.jpg)
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Post by: waltsfishing on Jan 18, 2013, 06:15 AM
tigers are a hybrid they can not reproduce on their own , i have caught alot of them in CT
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Post by: reddog11 on Jan 18, 2013, 02:19 PM
Nice. Never caught one.
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Post by: fishertom34 on Jan 18, 2013, 09:37 PM
made our 1st ice trip to the high country friday and found some safe ice that had plenty of willing tigers

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/IMG366-1.jpg)

(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee399/muskyon46/IMG358.jpg)

pretty cool how the color can very in these fish
very nice and rare too i am i NY,i don't think  we even have any,it seem massachusetts and Connecticut do !!!
Title: Re: Tiger trout (updated 11-25 with uintah tigers)
Post by: catfish20 on Jan 19, 2013, 06:18 PM
ive cought both stocked and wild tiger trout, read into it they do occur as a hybrid where brookies and browns and mix. Seems to occur in places where brookies outnumber browns and so a male brookie manages to get a "shot" in there without being buillied off by a larger male brown. still conditions have to be perfect as mortality is high. its much easier for the fry to survive in a hatchery and because they look cool private hatcheries raise them and fish and game clubs like to buy them and stock them. thats where the hatchery ones usually come from, here in NY at least.
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Post by: eyeslayer on Jan 20, 2013, 10:22 PM
I've got to catch one of these
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Post by: hi_tail on Feb 12, 2014, 11:19 PM


Cool man! 
I used to catch these things all the time as a kid.
I haven't seen one in years.
Title: Re: Tiger trout (updated 11-25 with uintah tigers)
Post by: mike304 on Feb 13, 2014, 11:49 AM
They are almost as pretty as Arctic Char!
Title: Re: Tiger trout mistakingly put on short list then removed by myself
Post by: deadsmelthead on Feb 13, 2014, 12:05 PM
Tigers themselves may be sterile but they are the offspring of a brook trout and a brown.  Since both spawn in the fall, any stream that has naturally occuring brooks and browns in it has the chance of producing tiger trout.  It doesn't happen often, and isn't common, but yes, they occur in the wild.   It seems like for whatever reason, certain watersheds produce them while many other do not.........conditons have to be perfect.

x2 on that I have stream in my neck of the woods with Browns and Brook trout that naturally reproduce.. It hasnt happened consistently but in the past 20 years or so ive caught roughly half dozen Tiger trout.. This is over the course of 20years+ of fishing it 1 or so a month during trout season.. So yes very rare ocurance but it does happen..
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Post by: Chase88 on Feb 13, 2014, 12:10 PM
They used to stock them in Palmer pond by Chestertown. My all time favorite trout. Aggressive and fought great. Also great eating.  In the fall the colors were incredible. No two alike.
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Post by: icefishman on Feb 13, 2014, 01:26 PM
Nice lookin fish
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Post by: thndrvlly on Feb 14, 2014, 07:44 PM
beauties, those are some nice pics, congrats
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Post by: icefisher23 on Feb 14, 2014, 07:53 PM
Definitely the most beautiful trout out there in my opinion.  I have only caught two in my life, both wild tigers and within a month of each other.  Was fishing small native brookie streams and caught a beautiful 14 incher with a lot of reds in it the first time.  Couldnt believe it an had to look it up to be sure of what it was.  Then a few weeks later I caught a 10 inch tiger that had a lot less color while native brookie fishing again.  Havent caught one since of course
Title: Re: Tiger trout (updated 11-25 with uintah tigers)
Post by: pascoag icefisher on Feb 15, 2014, 05:37 AM
Cool looking fish
Title: Re: Tiger trout (updated 11-25 with uintah tigers)
Post by: muskyon46 on Feb 17, 2014, 10:50 PM
Thanks everyone, Those google image ones look awesome with the spawn colors going. Wish i had got into some this last fall but got myself into a 2 1/2 month burbot derby and that consumed most of my time from mid nov till the end of jan. Spring is just around the corner here apparently with this crazy weather so are the ice off tigers
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Post by: Good times on Feb 20, 2014, 08:47 PM
Good lookin fish
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Post by: dekatronic on Feb 20, 2014, 11:40 PM
Until I joined this forum I never even knew tiger trout existed.  They are stunning!  Any idea how big they get?  What's their temperament like?
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Post by: Chevy champagne on Feb 21, 2014, 02:05 PM
these are some of the most beautiful fish out there! one day i will cross these buggers off my list!
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Post by: SeisMec on Feb 25, 2014, 04:48 AM
nice thanks for the pic