Bait-mousees

[jiggingshad11]

Anybody having trouble getting bait???  wholesaler said no mousee's, all gone.  $40  a thousand.  

[bluegillbasher]

Just ordered bait for my shop and the wholesaler said no mousees for the season.Said something about it being to wet this fall and the pick was very small.He said guys may find a small supply of mousees here and there but its gonna take alot of callin to find them and there won't be many if you DO find any.Off to a great start already!

[fishinfurkarma]

my shop said the same.. he bought up the only 5,000 he could find....$4/50!

[ICE4ME75]

try knutsons live bait. i got my order last wednesday.they last me the year.

[ICE4ME75]

just checked pricing and it is $58.71 for a 1,000. $35.41 for 500 count (that's with shipping added in to my address just south of albany)

[oneidawalleye]

Dave's Bait & Tackle (518) 863-8318 on Bunker Hill Road in Mayfield has mousees this year.

[hard4ice]

the buffalo news fishing line (dec. 15 edition) said that there was  poor hatches in Michigan where they are grown and marketed, and they will be almost double in price from last year. there may be a slight shortage i guess

[Gamma Fish]

the buffalo news fishing line (dec. 15 edition) said that there was  poor hatches in Michigan where they are grown and marketed, and they will be almost double in price from last year. there may be a slight shortage i guess

Mousee's are not native to Michigan as some people would like you to believe.
 One of the largest Mousee suppliers is right here in New Yorks southern tier !   They inhabit his farm and he harvests them just as any other mousee supplier does.
  Mousee's are not like spikes that can be raised indoors in a climate controlled environment.  They're a specie of ground bee that's susceptible to the weather, water and heat.     Wet springs and summers result in low harvests of moussee's.    Excessive heat will also cause low numbers but it's not nearly as bad as the high moisture levels.
   When the weather in the northeast and upper midwest is not conducive for a strong moussee hatch, those suppliers make the calls to the farms in the southern states where they're plentiful and rarely harvested.       Prices are cheap but they've already got you believing that there's a shortage (self made) so they raise the prices to astronomical levels and if you want moussee's, you pay the shot !
  I'm hearing prices of $40.00 to $55.00 per / 1000 
 Moussee's should be about $12.00 to $15.00 / 1000 and spikes $6.00 to $9.00 / 1000 on the retail end

 

[hard4ice]

whatever, i'm not a bugman... i was just passing along the info

[Gamma Fish]

whatever, i'm not a bugman... i was just passing along the info

So was I       Might just save someone a buck down the road !

[5watchman5]

1,000 spikes on the way as of this morning from Knutson's.  Wifee is gonna love it.

[sacandagakid]

JIM's bait shop.mayfield has them bought them yesterday.no price changes

[Fontona19]

Fish 307 has a supply of them. I picked some up yesterday.

[afwrestler1986]

I just saw mousies for 14.99/1000. Saw it at gander Mountain.

[silvercreeker]

I picked waxies today at Dave's in Derby ny.  They looked fat and juicy, maybe deepfried 
Dave said he will have spikes and mousies early next week.

[Gamma Fish]

I just saw mousies for 14.99/1000. Saw it at gander Mountain.

Had to be spikes for that price........or another Gander pricing blunder   

[silvercreeker]

Happy Hooker had mousies and spikes today.

[drowndin dots]

Mousee's are not native to Michigan as some people would like you to believe.
 One of the largest Mousee suppliers is right here in New Yorks southern tier !   They inhabit his farm and he harvests them just as any other mousee supplier does.
  Mousee's are not like spikes that can be raised indoors in a climate controlled environment.  They're a specie of ground bee that's susceptible to the weather, water and heat.     Wet springs and summers result in low harvests of moussee's.    Excessive heat will also cause low numbers but it's not nearly as bad as the high moisture levels.
   When the weather in the northeast and upper midwest is not conducive for a strong moussee hatch, those suppliers make the calls to the farms in the southern states where they're plentiful and rarely harvested.       Prices are cheap but they've already got you believing that there's a shortage (self made) so they raise the prices to astronomical levels and if you want moussee's, you pay the shot !
  I'm hearing prices of $40.00 to $55.00 per / 1000 
 Moussee's should be about $12.00 to $15.00 / 1000 and spikes $6.00 to $9.00 / 1000 on the retail end

 wow great info on that , and i cant belive a larva could possably capitvate me so lol !!!  i take it you may have some info on ordering some ive been able to get them so far but if i ever have trouble could you pm me with some info ?? appriceate the help and the discovery channel like breakdown of the mousies

[Ice Dog]

The lowest price I have seen on a 1000 is 42.00. I remember buying 5000 for $100.00 last year??

[Gamma Fish]

wow great info on that , and i cant belive a larva could possably capitvate me so lol !!!  i take it you may have some info on ordering some ive been able to get them so far but if i ever have trouble could you pm me with some info ?? appriceate the help and the discovery channel like breakdown of the mousies Flag!

I don't deal in live bait anymore but still have a few connections.  If you get in a jam, let me know 

[afwrestler1986]

Had to be spikes for that price........or another Gander pricing blunder   

This would not surprise me. I walked in to buy stuff and was really shocked by the selection of ice fishing gear.   

They had a whole 7 sq feet dedicated to us. 

Now I also went to BassPro and their selection is far better than last year, but is still relatively small considering we are in NY.

[s10xr]

i fished mousees last weekend at big bay.  bought them at gander in cicero

[Hobo Hilton]

Try Wholesale bait co., Vados bait express, Knutson's live bait, Grub co bait.com, and Jada bait.net, Maybe one of them can help you out.

[PauliePiker]

Mousee's are not native to Michigan as some people would like you to believe.
 One of the largest Mousee suppliers is right here in New Yorks southern tier !   They inhabit his farm and he harvests them just as any other mousee supplier does.
  Mousee's are not like spikes that can be raised indoors in a climate controlled environment.  They're a specie of ground bee that's susceptible to the weather, water and heat.     Wet springs and summers result in low harvests of moussee's.    Excessive heat will also cause low numbers but it's not nearly as bad as the high moisture levels.
   When the weather in the northeast and upper midwest is not conducive for a strong moussee hatch, those suppliers make the calls to the farms in the southern states where they're plentiful and rarely harvested.       Prices are cheap but they've already got you believing that there's a shortage (self made) so they raise the prices to astronomical levels and if you want moussee's, you pay the shot !
  I'm hearing prices of $40.00 to $55.00 per / 1000 
 Moussee's should be about $12.00 to $15.00 / 1000 and spikes $6.00 to $9.00 / 1000 on the retail end

 

Thanks for the education Gamma fish,just one of many games that "BAITSHOPS" play,a few more guys like you around would go  a long way to stopping their B.S.,and would save us fisherman $$$.

[Gamma Fish]

Thanks for the education Gamma fish,just one of many games that "BAITSHOPS" play,a few more guys like you around would go  a long way to stopping their B.S.,and would save us fisherman $$$.

I wish I still had the drive to get back into bait/tackle/fish business !   Some very simple stratagies I used kept my customers extremely happy !    Especially when it comes to spikes, mousee's and wax worms !    They're all perishable baits and will cost the shop owners money if not sold promtly !    I used all 3 forms of bait as a "Thank You" to my customers !    If you sold me your fish, you got your bottle of spikes, or mousee's for free so you could go out and catch more fish !    If you bought a small minimum of jigs, rods, terminal tackle or accessories from me, (on the wholesale end) you'd get a bag of 5,000 spikes for free !     I'm a firm believer in the "Sell 100 items and make $100.00 instead of trying to make $100.00 on one sale ! 
  Many shop owners these days take advantage of the fact (or at least try to) that we as ice fishermen have little time to enjoy our sport and spend money like drunken sailors to get what we want ! (no offense to you sailors)         
 Winter is a gem for bait shops if they keep in stock, the bait, tackle and accessories that are REQUIRED, DESIRED and bought on IMPULSE !    Without them, a shop gets stagnant !   There's good money in the bait business but on the retail end (where the bait may sit for longer periods of time) it's better to use some of the bait i as a customer appreciation tool !    Don't over charge, give good quantities and keep it in saleable condition !    If a guy spends a $50.00 bill on tackle, toss him a tube a spikes or mousees !    It's worth much more than the money they'd make on the sale of that same tube of spike !    It creates many futures sales and relationships !

  Maybe I'm just too old school but in the days when you actually interracted face to face with your suppliers and customers, it was so much easier to build a solid customer base and make an honest living !    These days, everyone wants to get rich overnight !

  Anyone interested in investing in a kick A$$ bait/takle shop at the crossroads of Central NY, let me know 
 

[Ranger_bound]

Try Wholesale bait co., Vados bait express, Knutson's live bait, Grub co bait.com, and Jada bait.net, Maybe one of them can help you out.

I called Vados bait express, Knutson's live bait and they were out. Knuston's is in the process of getting some but for a price...$40 a 1,000. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Jada bait only sells waxworms and spikes. The Gander Mtn. in New Hartford is supposed to get a shipment of them in this or next week, so I am told.

[slabspanker]

jada = spikes and waxies. they do a great job with the spikes for me

[bluegillbasher]

At $40 -1000 that is 4 cents each,a tube of spikes is usually 50 to a tube which is $2.00.If my supplier had spikes for sale he'd charge me $1.75 a tube of 50 and they would be resold for $2.25 per 50 which makes a profit of 50 cents on an investment of $1.75. To go a little further pike shiners run $9.00 per lb. and 12 pike bait is VERY close to 1 lb. and are resold at $10.00 dozen which means you've spent $9.00 to make $1.00 which any accountant will say is a poor investment.Now the last time i checked i didn't find any gold bars under my bed after 6 years in the business so how is it again the baitshop owners are robbing the fishermen?I know this is a little off the subject but it gets tiresome year after year on here seeing the guys bashing on the baitshop guys.I'd say if live minnows could be bought online the baitshops would be gone.Nowadays everyone buys from the cheapest guy they can find or on the internet and then complains when theres no baitshops close by.I've been around long enuf to know that the guy who undercuts everybody else to grab the business gets the business at least for a little while and then goes out a few years down the road because his end of the pie was alot smaller then what the cost of things were and he wasn't making enuf to keep his doors open.My supplier is still stickin to no mousees for the season.Anyway,good luck to all this season.

[trapper2000]

now  wait  a  miinute ,  and  i'm  not  calling  anyone  a  crook   but  i  can  get  you  5000  spikes  right   now   for  45  dollars  bluegill  how  is  that  1.75   for  50  to  you?  hell  you'd   be  better  off   buying  the  5000  ,  50  ct   is   45  cents  on  your  end  you  could   sell  them  at  1.50    and   toss  half  of  them  away  and  still  make   double  what  yer  making  right  now??

and  ranger  i  don't  think   jada   does  sell  mousies

[bluegillbasher]

Trap,that $1.75 price is 50 mousees in a plastic tube from my wholesaler and he don't sell in bulk as if he did i'd do what you suggested.He's the only bait supplier that i know of that supplies the entire area around me and currently has the market cornered.He had competition from one other guy in Mass. but he's gone now and this fellas it,you don't deal with him you don't have bait to sell.Now there's the market to get into if you got the space.