Highs in the 30s and lows in the upper teens won't form much ice when you throw in snow or wind. For most bodies of water it will take a real cold blast with clear calm nights for a few days to get a good safe base going. I think its hard to forecast those conditions much ahead of time. What you see in the past seven day forecast are mostly avg's with what forecasters predict should happen. My opinion is we will not see ice form in the first 7 days of DEC. I'll stick with my guess of the first week in January.