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Offline lostfisher1

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Reading bottom structure on a vexilar?
« on: Dec 19, 2008, 04:44 PM »
I know that the bottom composition can be read through a vexilar. I know that the dencer the substance the more red it will show. But I get confused when it comes to identifying the composition. What would mud show up as, rocks, sand, etc..

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Re: Reading bottom structure on a vexilar?
« Reply #1 on: Dec 19, 2008, 05:11 PM »
 
  mud would show up as a soft bottom more orange and green then red.


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Re: Reading bottom structure on a vexilar?
« Reply #2 on: Dec 19, 2008, 06:22 PM »
I find a hard bottom to show as a thin red line with little to no echo behind it. Mud/soft bottom can show as alot of green and it can be tough to tell exactly which is bottom especially if there are weeds.
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Re: Reading bottom structure on a vexilar?
« Reply #3 on: Dec 19, 2008, 06:28 PM »
That's right. The harder the bottom, the thinner the red line. A thick red line would be a soft bottom. A thick red line with some orange/green would be a soft bottom with weeds.


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Re: Reading bottom structure on a vexilar?
« Reply #4 on: Dec 23, 2008, 08:01 PM »
That's right. The harder the bottom, the thinner the red line. A thick red line would be a soft bottom. A thick red line with some orange/green would be a soft bottom with weeds.

Actually it is the other way around, red is your strongest signal, green is the weakest.
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Re: Reading bottom structure on a vexilar?
« Reply #5 on: Dec 27, 2008, 11:12 AM »
As I understand it, a hard bottom gives you a wider bottom signal and a thinner bottom signal means a soft bottom because the soft bottom absorbs some of the signal and gives a weaker return to the receiver. Here is what Vexilar has to say.




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Re: Reading bottom structure on a vexilar?
« Reply #6 on: Dec 27, 2008, 11:43 AM »
Ok sometime I see a verry wide red bar on my graph. I assume its hard bottom because of such a strong signal.  Is this true??

What about if I see just a thin Red bar mabey 1/2 an inch thick?? is this a soft bottom??

I never really though about the bottom until now, usually all I do is look for fish and move

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Re: Reading bottom structure on a vexilar?
« Reply #7 on: Dec 27, 2008, 06:16 PM »
That's the way I see it. The stronger or wider the signal the harder the bottom composition. Just my .02 though.
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Re: Reading bottom structure on a vexilar?
« Reply #8 on: Dec 30, 2008, 01:57 PM »
Ice dawg is right, harder bottom gives you more reflected sonar energy and a wider, bottom reading. When trolling in the summer time with my old Eagle flasher, when I moved over a harder section, the bottom signal would get wider and a double or triple echo would show up. Soft bottoms would only show up as a thin line. I found that's the best way to get a feeling for how your flasher reads the different bottoms, as each flasher will show a different signal depending on conditions. Really helps when you're trying to find areas of hard bottom on a new lake.
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