I agree with most of you guys about the Venture. I bought one this year for 200$ which was about 30 bucks cheaper than most places. The 3 stage pole system is a little difficult for 1 man to do at times. You have to partially close one door and leave the other open and let the wind bellow it out so you can see what your doing in there(I found this is the easiest).On the other hand, you pay for the Artic Armor material which is probably the most durable material on the market, and a little heavier. I think you have look at what you want in a shelter. Durability,ease of setup,weight, and size.