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JimP, how can you continue to spew your BS and then accuse others of attacking and hiding behind their screen names? You have laid personal attacks on me more than once on this thread, so don't pretend your the all mighty gentle one on ice shanty, with your reports from England and California. Just because you've read some decades old reports on pike management in Europe doesn't mean your an expert either buddy. You talk like your God, just because you can spew some long-winded response to everyone on here who are against northern pike. Become a little open minded and realize that Maine is a state in its own, with a completely different aquatic ecosystem than in Europe or California, and certainly a different breed of people. It doesn't seem to me that it is time to manage pike in Maine, they are clearly doing fine without regulations in place. I can't grasp the idea that our economy will boom if we start managing pike say in the Belgrades, and the average pike size rises 2 pounds. The pike are here to stay, and everyone knows it, regulations won't help, there are already enormous ones in Long Lake.Oh and by the way, what happened to my post on this thread a few pages back? Hmm, three cheers for free speech on the Maine Board!
Does anyone think they will ever put regs on pike?Its obvious that theres allot of us that do care what happens to that fishery i do.Ive spoke to a bio every year and they say the same thing if you like to pike fish and want it to stay around release the big females and males but if they look unhealthy get them out so that's what i do.
As voracious predators, pike are highly dependent on theavailability of prey (Diana 1979). Nilsson and Bronmark (2000) suggested that prey selection bypike is dependent on gape size, prey vulnerability, intraspecific interactions, and behavioralpreferences. During periods of prey shortage, pike become cannibalistic
1.8 Plan Goals and ObjectivesThis plan initiates ADF&G’s efforts to prevent, manage, and control pike in waters in the statewhere pike are not native.
Read this report from Alaska.........see what they think of their beloved pike. I think they are probably more geographically and economically comparable to Maine than California or Europe. It looks like they don't want them either.http://www.sf.adfg.state.ak.us/region2/pike/pike_management_plan.pdf
This good stuff is only in the first two pages.
Northern pike are known to consume large portions of stocked and migrating juvenile salmonids.
Saying kill em all isn't the right solution, if you don't like em than don't fish for them, imo. Julie
Like Billditrite just stated he doesn't have the energy to remove all posts that seem like an attack, so things get hand picked. It's funny how some people's posts never get picked however. Funny ain't it son?
Maineduckhunter, This is not an attack on on your practice of leaving what you believe are "trash" fish. You have your opinion, you aren't breaking any laws from what I understand. So This is not a "bashing" post. I don't like the idea of leaving fish on the ice. I believe that if I catch a fish & I am not going to take it home to utilize it, it has to go back in the water. I used to put what "I" deemed "trash" fish, on shore ta "feed the coons" in open water season, before it became illegal here in Minnesota to do that.But , I never left fish on the ice , other that a stray dead baitfish. I have a suggestion to ya. Rather than leaving those fish on the ice, why don't you & your family locate some folks around your area that would love to have some fresh fish, & give them the ones you don't want. I do this on occasion. I have friends who are too old to go out fishing anymore & when I have more than I need , or even if I know they'd like some fresh fish. I give them a few so the can enjoy the "free meal". I got my fishing in, & did a "good deed" ta boot. This would help keep those who don't like your current practice from bashing ya, & you wouldn't have any "PETA" types gathering ammo for bashing us sportsman. Remember this is just a suggestion.... BTW, I am an avid sportsman, & hunting ducks/geese is one of my favorite pastimes. I don't keep coots(Mudducks), although some folks do & like them.But when they fly by, I don't shoot them & leave them lay for varmints. They go on they're merry way, that way I don't waste hard earned time & $$ harvesting them. But, If one of the party screws up & shoots one. They eather eat it, or it will go to someone that we know who does. I just threw that in there, as an analogy to my suggestion. As I said , not a "bash"Good luck. I wish ya well!
I don't have the time now to write a proper response but I think that cap pretty much covered it.Ice Time... Respectfully you are wrong once again. TU, DDAS and certain legislators have been pushing IF&W hard on this issue. I have seen the e-mails and letters. I talk to people too. Some of this correspondence has even been posted on Butchies site. You say this new non management is working. BS again. This is the first year of the program with no size and bag limits on pike. If you are seeing better fishing, and you are, it was a result of what was done years ago when the pike management plan was in place. You are not going to see the results of this for a few years, my concern is by then it will take years to correct the problem. I don't want to put up with bad fishing, that is all I am saying.And since we are asking questions, and at least I answer. Could you go back and answer some for me? What about the economic benefit to the areas effected? What about the science? What about Davis Lake in California? What about the studies in England and elsewhere? What about the selling of the brook trout that the some seem hell bent on doing, what about publishing lists and locations of WBT waters?You never seem to respond? All you do is attack and attack.Personally, I think your behavior is boorish. Talking with you never seems like a conversation, it feels like an inquisition. You hide behind your screen name, when obviously you are a player in this. Don't you think it is time to come out from behind the curtain and be straight with everyone here?As to the IF&W bios... I encourage you to call them. They are a diverse group and sometimes have differing opinions and each would do different things if they had total control. They don't. IF&W has political considerations as well as scientific ones. With any state agency that has to please the public, they try to please as many as they can. They do a good job with what they have to work with.
