I've been to schroon about 5 times, and everytime I've gotten a pike over 5lbs, and two bass one was 4 and the other was 5lbs. We got a perch that was over a pound, and my buddy got a laker that was 29" 7lbs. We've done fine up there, even with the smelt. And after the thaw once we got out there was a solid 9".