Shiner Trapping Question

[Hottuna5150]

That's a very good point..... I don't think a lot of people understand the limit rule on fish in general. I got into a discussion with someone on FB a little while back about what you're aloud to keep. He was saying that he can go out and get 25 white perch everyday for a week and fill his freezer as much as he wants as long as he doesn't keep more than 25 a day...... The law says No person may have in his possession at one time more wildlife (including fish) than he may lawfully take in 2 days. He said what was in his freezer was not in his possession. I stopped talking at that point......

Bet he'd be awful possessive of that freezer if you tried taking it 
You were dealing with a Neurosurgeon for sure. 

[800stealth]

Bet he'd be awful possessive of that freezer if you tried taking it 
You were dealing with a Neurosurgeon for sure. 

Right... he's not in possession of the money in his checking account but i bet he'd argue to the death it was his. lol

[Digs]

It was mind numbing..... More than a few people agreed with him unfortunately.

[Coffin Dodger]

It was mind numbing..... More than a few people agreed with him unfortunately.

Digs, that's exactly why I spend very little time on the Space Book fishing pages, and very rarely comment. 
There are some on those pages who know how to fish and the rules. The're vastly ounumbered by self proclaimed experts with no clue. They're always arguing about simple, commonly known rules, open/close dates etc..
Too many baffle me with their BS and creative "rules". 

[fishermantim]

Digs, that's exactly why I spend very little time on the Space Book fishing pages, and very rarely comment. 
There are some on those pages who know how to fish and the rules. The're vastly ounumbered by self proclaimed experts with no clue. They're always arguing about simple, commonly known rules, open/close dates etc..
Too many baffle me with their BS and creative "rules". 

You mean the "armchair" quarterback types?
The ones that know all the rules but probably don't follow them because they are for everyone else?

Yeah, they're a pill.
They're all high and mighty with their "knowledge" until a game warden has to issue them a citation to correct them. 

[Coffin Dodger]

You mean the "armchair" quarterback types?
The ones that know all the rules but probably don't follow them because they are for everyone else?

Definitely armchair quarterbacks and too many "coaches and managers". The biggest issue for me, is how many think they know the rules, but don't.   
I can't speak to the ones who actually know the rules, but don't follow them because they are for everyone else.
Thought politicians had the majority on that?     

[Roccus]

You mean the "armchair" quarterback types?
The ones that know all the rules but probably don't follow them because they are for everyone else?

Yeah, they're a pill.
They're all high and mighty with their "knowledge" until a game warden has to issue them a citation to correct them. 

Says the guy that got pinched jigging while fishing his limit of tip ups..

[AQUAASSASSIN]

Ohhhh

[800stealth]

LOL... busted

[Coffin Dodger]

    

[Lv2hunt]

[bassin212]

I keep my bait in a pond, catch a load the afternoon before an outing and keep them in the garage on a aerator overnight. Sometimes I change the water in the morning, but rarely... then up to the lake where they go under the ice for future trips. We only bring bait to the lake a few times a season. Nice to have it at the bobhouse. We keep the bait in a 3 ft net sock stringer. Works great. the fish can utilize the 3' vertical column of water, seems to keep them better than horizontal.

Also I try to catch minnows in my usual spots in fall and early winter and they are gone, creek chubs, they look like dace, but arent. I think they migrate to bigger water, the Ct River. I see no minnows in my brooks now.

I've been catching a lot of what I think to be creek chubs as well. Good sized ones too,  4-5 inches long. Are they good bait?

[bassin212]

At least that's what I think i'm catching

[zcm_82]

At least that's what I think i'm catching

Yep, that's a chub.

[Raquettedacker]

At least that's what I think i'm catching

   Fat Head minnow?   
https://www.mossyoak.com/our-obsession/blogs/fishing/fatheads-a-little-minnow-with-a-big-benefit-for-new-ponds

[zcm_82]

I've been catching a lot of what I think to be creek chubs as well. Good sized ones too,  4-5 inches long. Are they good bait?

They are really hard to keep alive for very long, in my experience, but they do make good catfish bait from the boat.. Channels will take the dead or alive, so I usually cut them in half for dead bait. Flatheads will take them live, if you can get them to the river before they go belly up.

I've never tried them as ice fishing bait, though.

[800stealth]

It's either a creek chub or a fall fish, tough to tell from the pic. Not sure the legalities of using either as bait though...

[zcm_82]

It's either a creek chub or a fall fish, tough to tell from the pic. Not sure the legalities of using either as bait though...

Good point, don't know the legality of it as bait there. Live bait rules are sort of convoluted here, and every state varies, some by a lot.

[TheCrittaC]

The F&G website says you can use fallfish and creek chubs as live bait in New Hampshire.
https://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/fishing/baitfish.html

In my limited experience with them, they don't work as well as shiners for trout.

[Hottuna5150]

The F&G website says you can use fallfish and creek chubs as live bait in New Hampshire.
https://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/fishing/baitfish.html

In my limited experience with them, they don't work as well as shiners for trout.

Fallfish work great for lake trout. Be it as cut bait (cut and scaled fresh... they get pretty mushy if you try to brine them in my experience) or hung live. Never tried a creek chub.

[Roccus]

Fallfish work great for lake trout. Be it as cut bait (cut and scaled fresh... they get pretty mushy if you try to brine them in my experience) or hung live. Never tried a creek chub.

I always thought fall fish would make a great laker or Pike bait, I've got them on salmon eggs and had them run off a ton of line...FAST.. they are almost as good at stealing eggs as rainbows are.

[Hottuna5150]

I always thought fall fish would make a great laker or Pike bait, I've got them on salmon eggs and had them run off a ton of line...FAST.. they are almost as good at stealing eggs as rainbows are.

There's a couple of ponds where we jig them up through the ice. It's a fun way to get bait for the next day out and they dog pretty good for a minnow. That said, when you're creek fishing with a fly rod they can be a huge nuisance so it all depends on the mindset/goal for the day.

[Digs]

I always thought fall fish would make a great laker or Pike bait, I've got them on salmon eggs and had them run off a ton of line...FAST.. they are almost as good at stealing eggs as rainbows are.

I've used fallfish for cut bait for lakers on a bucktail and they work very well

[1MOFISH]

   Fat Head minnow?   
https://www.mossyoak.com/our-obsession/blogs/fishing/fatheads-a-little-minnow-with-a-big-benefit-for-new-ponds

around here we call dem peach faced chubs.like mini rainbow trout they are prized by every species specially big bass
GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU
mo

[bassin212]

They’ve been alive in my bait tank for a couple weeks now. Figured they would work for lakers and warm water species. We’ll give it a shot and see what happens

[merk42]

thats a creek chub
chubs are all we use, they seem to be good for all species. Hardy too! Best way to keep them at your lake is in a vertical keeper of your choice. They seem to do better when they have a column of water to navigate rather than laying on the horizontal.

[JIGGIN-]

This may help.

[Dipstick]

You can Google any of the acceptable species and compare to what you're catching. Definitely a creek chub, not to be confused with a chub sucker..

[AQUAASSASSIN]

Not sure how many folks know this.

There is a limit of shiners you are allowed to keep on hand. 4 Liquid Quarts or ~ 2 days worth of bait. (Your allowed 2 Liquid Quarts of shiners per day trapping). Otherwise you will need to get a bait dealer's license @ $26.00

Suckers, there is no limit however have trap specs.

May want to check into this.

Good post Mike! I thought about it then my mind wandered. Kudos

[bassin212]

I probably should start a new thread, but is there any harm in throwing bait that I had hooked but is still swimming in my bait tank with bait I haven’t used yet?