Author Topic: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25 OF ICE UPDATE  (Read 24048 times)

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Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
« Reply #60 on: Dec 15, 2018, 07:14 PM »
I think he is using 5amp battery and lighter auger.   Most of difference is in the auger.   You want the Cadillac or Prius?

Yah a 6" mora and a 5ah BATT. Just got home from carrying it in my right hand for a total of 5 miles over hill and dale.

I'd much rather carry a Prius! ;D

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Just for fun I timed driling a hole tonight while out fishing. 7" strikemaster lazer hand anger attached to my Rigid Octane. 11" of ice in 3.22 seconds.

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Sounds about right. Didnt measure with my Nils. There was a guy setting up about 100 yds from me this weekend, and I cut 3 holes in the time he cut one with a Jiffy Model 30. 
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My Rigid octane drill and battery showed up Saturday but the adapter didn't until today so first chance to try.  I convinced myself I needed this only because the lifetime warranty I would use for household use and it would replace my 20 year riobyi and 6 batteries that no longer hold a charge for beans.  Thoughts on drill with battery - very heavy for household use, you would be hard pressed to use this all day above your head on a project.

Adapter - initially I looked for the ht enterprises adapter as a choice to pair with my very lightly used 8" fin bore but all on back order and some poor reviews about 3/8" bit snapping.  Ended up with the Kovac adapter.  Put it on today, tremendous amount of slop at connection, enough so that I will look to shim somehow, even if only with a few wraps of electrical tape.

Assembled - took it on the pond and drilled 5 holes to try through 6-7"of good hard ice.  Lowest speed setting, on drill, highest torque.  Jumps around pretty good until you get it started as this style of bit has no center point and I believe what you guys all call shaver blades, not rippers.  Once started, it eats ice but binds pretty severely as you get ready to break through.  You definitely want it propped against your leg and have the extension handle attached in my opinion.  It even cracked the plastic part of the wingnut that goes through kovac adapter and bit.  I have a 14 year old son and feel more comfortable with him using the 10" jiffy with ripper blade than this accordingly.  Other style bits like the nils may not experience as much of a grab, not sure.

Overall weight - about 15 pounds, certainly lighter than a 10" jiffy but not a "lightweight" option if that makes sense.

Final - Initially, I can only give it a "C", it might grow on me or I might send it back.  Going to give it a fair test this weekend.  I'll update.

That's just my honest, out of the gate assessment.  Good luck in your decisions on this product and application.  If you are only looking at this product as dedicated to ice fishing paired with the right bit, you might enjoy.  Piker's result on battery life thus far seems outstanding also. :tipup:

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You might want to get a smaller battery for around the house. I have the older Drill with 4 ah batteries and it is good for both.
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You might want to get a smaller battery for around the house. I have the older Drill with 4 ah batteries and it is good for both.

Or go to the gym. ;D

Just viewed the purchase as a "do everything" option without additional expense, might have been my mistake.  I'll give it a fair shake this weekend.

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I've been guilty of preaching that you need a Clam plate to handle either the Ridgid 1300 in/lbs or the Milwaukee Fuel. I've had so much wobble this year with the Clam plate

spinning a 7" Nero that I just went back to basics for an outing this morning. Rock hard 12" of Elevenmile ice. Had the Ridgid attached to the 7" Nero through a Bass Pro adaptor

that's basically a knockoff of a Kovac adaptor. It was sloppy going together but when I screwed the Allen bolt down, it snugged up tight. On the ice it chewed the holes at about

3"/second. The Ridgid extension arm was plenty stout enough to brace against my leg so no sprained wrists. The Clam plate is superfluous and in fact I believe the combination of

the Ridgid drill and Clam plate was the sole source of all that wobble. I'm sticking with this setup and saving my Fuel for projects around the shop. Anybody need a Clam plate?
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My Rigid octane drill and battery showed up Saturday but the adapter didn't until today so first chance to try.  I convinced myself I needed this only because the lifetime warranty I would use for household use and it would replace my 20 year riobyi and 6 batteries that no longer hold a charge for beans.  Thoughts on drill with battery - very heavy for household use, you would be hard pressed to use this all day above your head on a project.

Adapter - initially I looked for the ht enterprises adapter as a choice to pair with my very lightly used 8" fin bore but all on back order and some poor reviews about 3/8" bit snapping.  Ended up with the Kovac adapter.  Put it on today, tremendous amount of slop at connection, enough so that I will look to shim somehow, even if only with a few wraps of electrical tape.

Assembled - took it on the pond and drilled 5 holes to try through 6-7"of good hard ice.  Lowest speed setting, on drill, highest torque.  Jumps around pretty good until you get it started as this style of bit has no center point and I believe what you guys all call shaver blades, not rippers.  Once started, it eats ice but binds pretty severely as you get ready to break through.  You definitely want it propped against your leg and have the extension handle attached in my opinion.  It even cracked the plastic part of the wingnut that goes through kovac adapter and bit.  I have a 14 year old son and feel more comfortable with him using the 10" jiffy with ripper blade than this accordingly.  Other style bits like the nils may not experience as much of a grab, not sure.

Overall weight - about 15 pounds, certainly lighter than a 10" jiffy but not a "lightweight" option if that makes sense.

Final - Initially, I can only give it a "C", it might grow on me or I might send it back.  Going to give it a fair test this weekend.  I'll update.

That's just my honest, out of the gate assessment.  Good luck in your decisions on this product and application.  If you are only looking at this product as dedicated to ice fishing paired with the right bit, you might enjoy.  Piker's result on battery life thus far seems outstanding also. :tipup:
Great review of your set up. I could definitely see where shaver blades could be problematic. I see Octane drill excelling with the Nils and K-drill. I had zero grab at the bottom of the hole using my 8 Nils. Thanks for sharing your findings.
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Great review of your set up. I could definitely see where shaver blades could be problematic. I see Octane drill excelling with the Nils and K-drill. I had zero grab at the bottom of the hole using my 8 Nils. Thanks for sharing your findings.

I saw that in your video.  The nils bit is so much longer than the fin bore bit I think its a better application for that reason also.   

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gamefisher, you can use smaller/lighter batteries like your used to if that is what you would like for over head work. i have 2 amp and 4 amp batteries that work on it and any other ridgid power tool. just be sure to buy them in a kit to receive the lsa.

if you have wobble in your set up they will walk and cut poorly. the wobble will be between the auger and adapter. some can remove it by tightening the screw. depending on the adapter you may not be able to remove the wobble like stinkyfingers had with his initial set up.
the blades on certain brands seem to do so more than others. the mora style that curve outwards seem to like to walk where as the lazer blades that curve inwards don't seem to have that problem, but do have the break thru catching issues because of the cut rate. the nero uses the outward curve to them so i am not surprised to hear about them walking. if it wobbles all of the way thru the cut then one blade is working harder than the other because one blade is touching before the other one can.

the top of the line fuel drill is 4 ounces less than this drill with out battery of any kind. a large share of the weight you have is from the battery size which is fine for the application on ice. could you imagine running it with a 12 amp battery over head.

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Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
« Reply #70 on: Dec 18, 2018, 08:26 PM »
Thanks!

Well done.  I have 2 8" nils flights sitting collecting dust and one more connected to the Tanaka still.  Guess I know what to do next!

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Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
« Reply #71 on: Dec 19, 2018, 06:33 AM »
Well done.  I have 2 8" nils flights sitting collecting dust and one more connected to the Tanaka still.  Guess I know what to do next!
LOL. This drill parred with a NILS is a BEAST. Let us know how you like it.
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Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
« Reply #72 on: Dec 22, 2018, 11:33 AM »
Hey stinky I run a new ridged-kovac-clam extension-Nero auger and there is little to no wobble. That is only true on my first hole and then I feel a little bit of looseness. It is the wing nut connecting my clam extension to the kovac. It loosens by just the slightest bit from bung hole tight and creates a little wobble. I intend to replace the wing nut with an Allen bolt that should have my system rock solid.

i don't see that anyone answered your question about the kovac icemaster 2 looseness. mine has the same looseness also. it is designed too small so there is for sure a lot of slop where it connects to either an extension or auger. it is also too short. they really need to make it bigger and longer, but it maybe on purpose for other augers so they should offer a shim for it. if you take the wing nut off and check clearance of it you will find the issues.

the good thing is the slop doesn't make it wobble, it's just loose on the adapter is all. i had the wobble issue trying to get away from the looseness issue of the icemaster while trying the clam plate. it has way too much wobble. so mine is being returned or maybe sell it in the for sale board because of the trigger mod is done so someone could use it as is instead of me ripping it apart to return it and i am going back to the icemaster. i do like the bungee cord system is uses anyway to hold shopping bags on my drill.
they need to make the kovac icemaster 3.

 i didn't like having to modify the trigger handle of the plate or trying to figure out how i wanted to protect my drill and battery with out adding a plastic box over it or the amount of weight and the foot print size and especially the wobble.
 the weight of it would make certain augers such as lazer, which i use, bind more on break thru with all of the additional weight and make it harder on your back trying to hold it up during that time for each hole you cut and i cut a lot of holes on some days.

UPDATE:
plate is for sale on the for sale board to give a local a chance to pick it up with the trigger mod done. it will be up for a short time and then back to dicks sports with free return shipping.
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Searching for balance and precision from any ice auger rig is a lost cause starting with any bit made today. They are all made for the lower RPM range. Non are balanced, I think many of the wobbles are starting to show up as RPMs are increasing. If you were to try to spin any ice auger bit at 25,000 RPMs things might self destruct. Some guy's setups are also getting lucky in that, each component happened to be manufactured correct with everything landing straight, centered and balanced unfortunately that's almost a fluke..

It's only going to work and operate so perfect.

All we need is a hole in the ice, everything else is frosting..

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Anecdotes aside, give me the math. It'd be a hoot if one of the hundreds of engineers out there would map the optimal torque/rpm ranges for each hand auger. That info alone might change the way folks look at what equipment to buy. 

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Anecdotes aside, give me the math. It'd be a hoot if one of the hundreds of engineers out there would map the optimal torque/rpm ranges for each hand auger. That info alone might change the way folks look at what equipment to buy.

Lol, I can tell you the optimal speeds and feeds for "ice' is whatever your drill and arm can handle  ;D

I've seen some funny videos of people spinning on top of their augers once they jam in the ice.

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UPDATE! Drilled another 30 holes through 12 of ice. Totaling +/- 100-110 holes without charging. Battery still on 1/2 charge. Still no complaints!
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UPDATE! Drilled another 30 holes through 12 of ice. Totaling +/- 100-110 holes without charging. Battery still on 1/2 charge. Still no complaints!

That's awesome! Going to try and get out here soon and give things a go. Ice is finally coming back after the warm up we had.

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That's awesome! Going to try and get out here soon and give things a go. Ice is finally coming back after the warm up we had.

Wow!!! how many holes have you drilled though 12" of ice on half a battery total now???

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Wow!!! how many holes have you drilled though 12" of ice on half a battery total now???
First day: +\- 50 holes in 7-8 of ice.
Second day: +\- 30 holes through 10 of ice.
Third day/today: +\-30 holes in 12 of ice.
Still at 50%
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If you have a smart phone you can download the ridged battery app and find out the exact percentage of your battery pike fisherman!

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First day: +\- 50 holes in 7-8 of ice.
Second day: +\- 30 holes through 10 of ice.
Third day/today: +\-30 holes in 12 of ice.
Still at 50%
Well done!!! I am curious when you will need to change/recharge your first battery..... the way its going could be some time in February... tight lines!!!

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Well done!!! I am curious when you will need to change/recharge your first battery..... the way its going could be some time in February... tight lines!!!
Im running it till it dies. Hoping to get another 2 outing with it.
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If you have a smart phone you can download the ridged battery app and find out the exact percentage of your battery pike fisherman!
Interesting. Ill have to figure that out
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I'll post what I've done with my fuel setup as a comparison.

1200 fuel 5AH batt /clamplate/Mora.  I have both 6" and 8" flytes.

Been using the 8" a couple times. First time thru 10" of clear hard ice at -11F got 30 holes.

Next time was 14" of clear hard ice at 20F got like 25 holes.

Drilled easily 100 holes with the 6" thru 5" of soft ice with only 1 bar used on the batt. ;D
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I'll post what I've done with my fuel setup as a comparison.

1200 fuel 5AH batt /clamplate/Mora.  I have both 6" and 8" flytes.

Been using the 8" a couple times. First time thru 10" of clear hard ice at -11F got 30 holes.

Next time was 14" of clear hard ice at 20F got like 25 holes.

Drilled easily 100 holes with the 6" thru 5" of soft ice with only 1 bar used on the batt. ;D

And I drilled 267 8" holes through 29" if hard clear ice when it was -20 with a wind chill of -49 with my 20v craftsman and 2 ah battery.  See what I did there?  All joking aside, it looks like the Ridgid is just as good as the fuels but for way, way cheaper. At least for now.

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Interesting. Ill have to figure that out

I never would've thought I would be checking on a cordless drill battery on my phone by bluetooth,  but here I am doing it right now lol.  Let's you know how long it will take to charge it, let's you lock it if its stolen, and has a gps in it. I just turned 37 and the technology these days still amaze these days lol





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I dont know if this is big news, but here is a link for special purchase price at Home Depot. You buy the 9.0 Ah battery and your choice of bare tool.  You can get the Octane drill and 9 Ah batterytogether, and it comes out to $181 with tax and shipping. I was at the store and there are no deals lie this one.

https://slickdeals.net/f/12004847-ridgid-9-0ah-hyper-octane-starter-kit-with-free-bare-tool-of-choice

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I dont know if this is big news, but here is a link for special purchase price at Home Depot. You buy the 9.0 Ah battery and your choice of bare tool.  You can get the Octane drill and 9 Ah batterytogether, and it comes out to $181 with tax and shipping. I was at the store and there are no deals lie this one.

https://slickdeals.net/f/12004847-ridgid-9-0ah-hyper-octane-starter-kit-with-free-bare-tool-of-choice

Someone already posted this, but it's good to keep reminding people.  Wicked good deal! 

 



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