Author Topic: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?  (Read 573 times)

Offline St. Lawrence River Guy

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Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« on: Jan 21, 2018, 07:22 PM »
I've been running 30lb mono leaders for a few years and my results have really improved since switching from traditional wire leaders.  However, today I had two fish break off those leaders (they might have been damaged last weekend but I didn't see any noticeable issues when baiting my hooks).

So, in very clear water (today I was sight fishing perch in 20 ft+ of water) what's your leader of choice.

Type, weight, brand?

Thanks.

Offline mvanhank222

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Re: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« Reply #1 on: Jan 21, 2018, 07:35 PM »
Seagar blue label leader 20 lb for pike 8 lb for walleye 2 or 4 lb for panfish

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Re: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 22, 2018, 07:28 AM »
Seaguar 60lb fluoro leader material. This is important... fluorocarbon line and fluorocarbon leader material are not the same. The actual leader material is much more resistant to abrassive tension. And ive been bit off on 60.

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Re: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 22, 2018, 06:45 PM »
I've heard good things about seaguar.  Always balked at the price but by the time you buy tip ups, bait, shanties, heaters, etc, etc, etc, losing big fish b/c I didn't spend $20 on leaders seems silly.

Just placed an order for some 60lb leaders.

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Offline Evil Tom

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Re: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 23, 2018, 09:37 AM »
Why not braided line?.

Offline frigidaire

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Re: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« Reply #5 on: Jan 23, 2018, 10:30 AM »
I really like Malin BOA single strand titanium wire for pike leaders.  Super fine, nearly impossible to kink, hangs dead straight and you can tie knots with it.  20 or 30 pound test. About $20 for a 30ft coil in a zip lock bag on a card.  I only mention that because when you take it out of the bag you dare not let go of it or the entire 30ft length will lay out flat and dead straight for the entire 30ft.  I get mine from Tackle Direct.com, but I have seen it elsewhere.  PS I'm currently also evaluating Segaur 30# fluoro LEADER....

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Re: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 26, 2018, 01:48 PM »
Why not braided line?.

Braided line is extremely strong but is easily cut when under stress.. you probably wont break a knot but a sharp tooth could be disastrous..

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Re: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« Reply #7 on: Jan 27, 2018, 08:55 AM »
I've been using 30lb braided haven't had any problems.

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Re: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 27, 2018, 10:23 AM »
I've been using 30lb braided haven't had any problems.

For a pike leader? Either you're not catching any toothies or you need to go buy a Powerball.

I've said it repeatedly, I get to say it again. Any plastic can be cut and at some point that will happen. Titanium? Really the only advantage over steel is it's kink-free nature which, for me, is not worth the much higher price point.

Sure sounds cool to say you're using the "latest, greatest" but day in, day out I'd be very surprised to be significantly outfished by anyone using "alternative" leader material. Yes, I've been out fished on occasion but the key word here is "significantly". Also note that the word "consistently" is missing as it applies to neither steel, titanium or plastic.

Lots (and lots) of anecdotal observations around "I get more flags with fluorocarbon" but I say if I had the "hot hole" (and you know they exist on any given day) I could use clothesline for leader and outfish everyone. It's the old deal, no one (well hardly anyone) leaves a decent bite to see if it can be even better or to prove worse or doesn't work.

For me, 20# uncoated wire is cheap, dirt easy to work with (no crimps necessary), very flexible (more so than 60# fluoro) and cut proof. I did not say "break proof" and that can happen, especially at the hole if you don't mind yer p's and q's.

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Re: Flourocarbon, Mono or Wire Leaders?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 28, 2018, 12:01 AM »
I have been using South Bend Invisa leaders for the past ten years or so.  Started using them when pike were stealing my small whitefish lures. 

http://www.south-bend.com/products/terminal-tackle/leaders/invisa-leader-flexible

Use the 12# leader, and get as many strikes as anyone else.  Caught lots of whites and never lost a pike because they cut off, so use them for everything now.

Ted

 



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